On 8/8/12 5:32 AM, David R Oran wrote:
>> That browser-centric view of the world knows nothing about .local.
> What browser are you using? Safari and I think Chrome know about .local just 
fine.

I'm talking about people, not technology. People know nothing of this, and
would be confused that they need to type in weatherstation.local, and doubly
more confused by why it doesn't work once they leave the house. It just doesn't
map to the way people view naming anymore.

>> Nor
>> do I want to learn about .local either. I want to have a real name that I
>> can use as a real URL to send -- as I just did -- to people that might want
>> to see my weather station. And I want -- literally -- for my mother to be
>> able to do the same. It is beyond her now.
>>
> For that you definitely need a global DNS domain registration, so we've 
cycled back to where we started - things you want to be accessed globally from 
anywhere on the internet need global names that can be resolved from anywhere on 
the internet.

The global namespace is what people have been taught in the last 20 years
and almost nobody remembers NBP. I think that it is an important requirement
that we do not mess with people's mental model of what we've forced upon them
which is the global DNS. .[site]local fails on that account. When I type an 
address
(or better, search) in a location bar, I want it to seem like it's an fqdn even 
if it's
walled off from the rest of the world -- people understand firewalls to a 
degree --
and perhaps even if it's a locally synthesized fqdn (ie, camping on a name that 
I
don't have registered). I don't want to think about the antiquated notion of 
filtering
by categories that I didn't create and probably make no sense to me whatsoever
as there becomes a vast array of internet-enabled widgets in the house.


>> So there's one problem.
>>
> Yes, and a fairly hard one given the manual/administrative nature of domain 
registrations and the geek factor of secure dynamic DNS updates for all services 
to the global

There's much that could be done to make this seamless, and probably many 
business
opportunities given that. The main problem right now is that we don't have a 
very big
internet that supports this feature. Once the v6 internet gets to a critical 
mass, there
will be a land rush of purpose built widgets vying for their homenet acreage. I 
think it
would be extremely short sighted to blow that off as "too hard" because it's 
not, and
especially if we stop spending an inordinate amount of brain cycles trying to 
do unnatural
acts with a naming mechanism that nobody even knows about.

Mike
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