Most major wireline deployments provide /60, /56 or /48. Examples: free.fr,
KDDI, AT&T. Exceptions are RCS+RDS (working on shorter prefixes) and some
North American cable operators, which AIUI are crippled by sucky CPEs that
fail to do anything useful when they receive more than a /64.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Randy Turner <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Have their been any ISPs that have come forward to discuss their consumer
> IPv6 allocation plans?  I don't think we should wrap ourselves around a
> model that says, "yeah, we need multiple /64s for consumers because that's
> the way a particular protocol works (SLAAC).   Maybe we need another
> method. One /64 for a home network seems like overkill regarding address
> space utilization -- A /32 would be overkill.  I know some folks think we
> have more address space than we'll ever use, but gee….
>
> Randy
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>
> > On Nov 14, 2012, at 3:31 AM, Brian E Carpenter <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 14/11/2012 02:34, Randy Turner wrote:
> >>> I was thinking that, in an effort to reduce scope to something we can
> deal with for now, that a /64 would be big enough
> >>
> >> It simply isn't, because it doesn't allow subnetting in the
> home/car/small office or whatever.
> >
> > I don't see the point in working on the /64 case—if that's all we're
> trying to accomplish, we've already accomplished it.   The interesting work
> Homenet is doing is in fact trying to solve the prefix distribution and
> automatic setup problem.   It's true that this is a hard problem.   It's
> also true that if we don't specify a solution, people will attempt to solve
> it in their own ways.   And if they do that, we will wind up in the
> situation that Jim found himself in with his broken box with its own
> built-in DHCP server.
> >
> > BTW, a little more on that topic: the reason that two DHCP servers on
> the same wire broke Jim's network in a flaky way is that IPv4 doesn't
> handle the multi-homing case.   IPv6 deliberately places the multi-homing
> case in-scope.   This creates a bit of a problem for legacy apps that do
> not support multi-homing, but it also creates the winning situation that if
> one device is advertising a provisioning domain that doesn't work,
> applications that do correctly handle multi-homing will simply use a
> different provisioning domain.
> >
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