Hello Carl,
I agree with you that using DHCPv6 to number the WAN is a more common approach.
In such case you don't really need PD exclude; you just need a single IPv6 
address for that link and RFC 6911 in section 3.1 already defines the 
Framed-IPv6-Address Radius attribute to be used for this purpose.
"3.1. Framed-IPv6-Address
   The Framed-IPv6-Address Attribute indicates an IPv6 address that is
   assigned to the NAS-facing interface of the RG/host."

Thanks
Roberta

From: Wuyts Carl [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:43 AM
To: Athanasios Douitsis; Bernie Volz (volz)
Cc: [email protected]; Michael Richardson; Roberta Maglione (robmgl); 
[email protected] WG; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] [homenet] PPP, DHCPv6 and Prefix Delegation

It's probably just a remark/side note, but pd_exclude could also be used with 
DHCPv6 iso RA on the WAN-link.  I've not bumped in to many customers using RA 
on WAN links to number them, not with separate prefix nor with excluded prefix, 
so the typical use case will be to get/use an excluded prefix, and to assign an 
IP from it to the WAN link through ia_na.

Regs
Carl


From: dhcwg [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Athanasios Douitsis
Sent: dinsdag 19 november 2013 13:40
To: Bernie Volz (volz)
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Michael Richardson; Roberta 
Maglione (robmgl); [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> WG; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] PPP, DHCPv6 and Prefix Delegation

Hello (thanks for the answer),
The uplink connection between the delegating and the requesting router will be 
in many cases enumerated with a prefix dictated by the Framed-IPv6-Prefix 
value. If this uplink prefix is going to be a part of the greater prefix that 
will be delegated, we would in effect have to include the value of the 
Framed-IPv6-Prefix in the OPTION_PD_EXCLUDE.
Example, if a delegating router makes a RADIUS request and gets the following 
attributes in the reply:

Framed-IPv6-Prefix='2001:dead:beef::/64'
Delegated-IPv6-Prefix='2001:dead:beef::/56'
Then the delegating router should
1)send an RA in the client uplink interface with 2001:dead:beef::/64. The 
uplink is enumerated with that /64.
2)Afterwards, when requested for PD, it should reply with the 
2001:dead:beef::/56 to the requesting router, but excluding the 
2001:dead:beef::/64 from that /56 by putting it in the OPTION_PD_EXCLUDE.
So in effect, the Framed-IPv6-Prefix has been copied in the OPTION_PD_EXCLUDE 
option.
If I have misunderstood something in the RFC or the discussion, I'd be grateful 
if you would correct me.
Thanks very much,
Athanasios






On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Bernie Volz (volz) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why would it ever be copied into that option? That makes no sense to me.

- Bernie (from iPad)

On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:16 AM, "Athanasios Douitsis" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


(i.e. have a configuration option to use the Framed-IPv6-Prefix value in the 
prefix exclude option instead of an RA)

Correction, the above is incorrect, as has been rightly pointed.
Are there any cases where the Framed-IPv6-Prefix value will not be copied as-is 
in the OPTION_PD_EXCLUDE value?


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