On Jun 13, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Ted Lemon <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jun 13, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Mark Townsley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ted, you asked Ray and I to issue a WGLC on a very specific set of text. You 
>> are falling into your own trap of going beyond that.
> 
> No, Mark, I agreed with Ray that the proposed text needed a last call.   Last 
> calls are not for rubber stamps.   They often produce proposed changes.   
> This is what I wanted, and why I asked for the last call.   I don't think the 
> text is right as is.

Ted, that is not at all what Ray explained to me. In fact, I relaxed the WGLC 
scoping text we sent to the group vs. what he thought had been agreed between 
the two of you. But that's neither here nor there - of course any text is up 
for changing at any time, and WGLCs are not rubber stamps, which is why the 
text from Adrian is being rejected, just as we said it would be. Let's not put 
words in my mouth.

I will repeat, I agree some of the text isn't right, and the WG agrees as well. 
Current thinking has diverged, partially due to the length of time the document 
has spent sitting in committee. Given the number of comments and compromises up 
to this point, it is obviously a hornets nest that could unravel any number of 
past discussions, agreements, and compromises. 

Not all of the text is wrong though, and above all I am hearing "better is the 
enemy of good enough" comments that I have great sympathy for at this stage.

- Mark





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