Am 19.09.2014 um 16:29 schrieb Michael Thomas:
Punting on one of the hardest problems would be a travesty. There are plenty of people in IETF that are plenty smart about this subject; we will never get an opportunity to do the right thing again if we loose this into the wild and say "figure it out yourself." We know what happens then.
That was not my point. I'm totally happy with having a standardized way of doing this but I don't think that HNCP is the place where it should be defined since we will probably not be the only user. Don't get me wrong if we or anyone else comes up with a brilliant solution I'm all up for referencing it and using it. For HNCP itself what is more important to define in my mind is choosing the crypto-mechanism or at least I would separate those two discussions.

The other point is, it doesn't matter how technically brilliant the solution is in the end if the user experience isn't good enough and that is outside our control really. Adding to that judging from experience with consumer-oriented hardware, if we get HNCP adopted then the baseline of products will probably support no-auth or maybe PSK if we are lucky unless we actually forbid unencrypted HNCP and / or PSK-secured HNCP and I'm not sure I personally would want to go there really.


Cheers,

Steven

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