Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: >> Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> 2) ISP-provided router has to be willing to trust retail purchased router, >> >> or nothing works. >> >> > So what about the other way around? To what degrees should my homenet trust >> > ISP-maintained CPE? >> >> That's up to you. Seriously. >> Your ISP-maintained CPE totally p0wns your network. If you don't trust them, >> even just a little bit, then you can't use their equipment.
> And there's nothing we can do about that, even if we define a boundary
> such that they are outside it?
You can run another router inside, and if the ISP router supports being a
DHCPv6-PD (such as proposed by HIP), you might win. Otherwise, you might as
well stick with IPv4+NAT, I think (maybe with v6 in a tunnel).
Me, I just buy by own router + modem, and I can't get a modem, many ISPs
understand when you want to turn their router into a modem only.
> I'm no expert here, but it seems to me that the normal first hop ISP
router
> doesn't
> have these characteristics of p0nwage for in-home traffic?
Right now, with IPv4 only, the ISP provided router (which usually includes
wifi) completely p0wns the house. I believe that when you get DSL from
free.fr, that they actually put up another ESSID which accepts VoIP traffic
From their mobile phone subscribers. That's why free.fr is so inexpensive;
the DSL subscribers provide the mobile phone infrastructure.
(free.fr is open about this. I've long suspected Bell Canada wants to do the
same thing, and I observe them essentially squatting on wifi channels all
over the place)
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Michael Richardson <[email protected]>, Sandelman Software Works
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