On 13/11/2014 12:44, Ralph Droms wrote:
> On Nov 12, 2014, at 1:03 PM 11/12/14, Andrew Sullivan 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:31:56AM -1000, Ralph Droms wrote:
>>> Brian - I missed the discussion in homenet, so this reference may have 
>>> already been cited: RFC 6761
>>>
>> That's the way we register the special use names.  What we don't have
>> is a way, apart from sending a liaison statement, to tell ICANN what
>> we're planning to do.
> 
> Thanks - that's an important clarification.
> 
>> In this particular case, I think it would be extremely important to
>> get positive affirmation that ICANN as an organization is in favour of
>> registering these names for special use, because the names in question
>> have in fact been applied for and applicants have spent not
>> inconsiderable money on those applications.
> 
> Agreed.

Violently agreed. There are definite feelings in ICANN-land that the IETF
didn't consult enough over RFC 6761, and adding a new TLD reserved for
technical purposes REQUIRES a careful liaison process (to establish that
it *is* a technical rather than a commercial or policy-based TLD name).

Given that there are currently 11 commercial applications* to delegate
the TLD home., I think the first step for the draft in question is
to choose a new name. It's close to the definition of insanity to
compete with the several million dollars already paid to ICANN.

* Search for "home" at
https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/viewstatus

    Brian

> 
> - Ralph
> 
> 
>>  I'm not convinced that it
>> would be safe for the IETF to make such a special-use registration at
>> this point without an explicit declaration from ICANN not only that
>> they wanted not to delegate for an indeterminate period of time, but
>> that they would like the special-use registration as well.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> A
>>
>> -- 
>> Andrew Sullivan
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