On 03/02/2015 11:34 AM, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: homenet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Markus
Stenberg
Sent: 02 March 2015 15:11
To: Mikael Abrahamsson
Cc: [email protected]; Markus Stenberg; Margaret Wasserman; Christian
Hopps
Subject: Re: [homenet] routing protocol comparison document and hncp

On 2.3.2015, at 15.55, Mikael Abrahamsson <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2015, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
I think Markus' comments on security are also very important to consider
here, as some sort of integrated security mechanism between the routing
protocol and HNCP might be strongly desired.
Yes, I agree that HNCP has gained security that currently none of the
routing protocols have, and that this is important.
Then one can always discuss what kind of information could go into each
protocol after bootstrap. Perhaps what we actually need is a new bootstrap
security protocol (not only for homenet), and that this is where the
emphasis should be.

Possibly. However, even if we had one, bootstrap protocol does not lead
easily to widely shared PSKs, and that’s what routing protocols require.

E.g. anima bootstrap stuff is focusing only on enrolling certificates. If I had 
a
certificate, I am not sure how it helps with PSK IS-IS scheme.
Well, draft-pritikin-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-01 describes a way to bootstrap a 
certificate infrastructure, zero touch. Once every device in a domain has a domain 
certificate, two devices can directly authenticate each other, without PSK. Then you can 
also authenticate a key negotiation scheme such as IKE, to negotiate a PSK which you can 
then use in your "normal" authentication scheme. Obviously, would be nice if 
protocol supported certs directly, but it's not required.

I still think that the above draft is a very good way to bootstrap a 
certificate infrastructure, which can be leveraged in many different ways.



I'm doubtful that routing protocols need PSK's. They almost certainly would like to share a symmetric key(s) but
is not the same thing.

Mike

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