In message <capt1n1mmm8iu7jhkq2rsgj1q9kjrqhaszjtpgpekb69vvnz...@mail.gmail.com>
, Ted Lemon writes:
>
> Andrew, the set of people who want to use the command line and who can set
> up DNS servers is wildly disjoint. And these domain names show up even in
> Apple uis.
>
Agreed: this is cut-and-pasted from the system preferences panel
on my mac.
Computers on your local network can access your computer at:
rock-26713.local
Yes, there have been lots of "collisions" due to trying to stitch
together multiple mDNS spaces across routed subnets and the machine
moving between them "fast".
> If you ever use SSH, or want to type in a URL, you need these names.
> Furthermore, leaving information out of uis trains users to not notice
> ambiguities that could meaningfully compromise their security, so I don't
> even agree with the idea that there should be a separate presentation name.
> I think it's a dangerous practice.
>
> Of course, to put that in perspective, I also think domain search lists are
> a dangerous practice for the same reason.
They are and even more so when you skip to the next search element
on NOERROR NODATA and SERVFAIL.
Mark
> On Nov 18, 2016 12:59 PM, "Andrew Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:48:49PM +0900, Ray Bellis wrote:
> > > I don't always want to have to use an mDNS point-and-click "browser" to
> > > discover these services.
> >
> > I think the point is that geeky people who are using ssh are not
> > really the population for whom we need to produce all this. After
> > all, if you're comfortable at a command line you could probably just
> > run a split-brain DNS for yourself in your homenet.
> >
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> <p dir=3D"ltr">Andrew, the set of people who want to use the command line a=
> nd who can set up DNS servers is wildly disjoint. And these domain names sh=
> ow up even in Apple uis.</p>
> <p dir=3D"ltr">If you ever use SSH, or want to type in a URL, you need thes=
> e names. Furthermore, leaving information out of uis trains users to not no=
> tice ambiguities that could meaningfully compromise their security, so I do=
> n't even agree with the idea that there should be a separate presentati=
> on name. I think it's a dangerous practice. </p>
> <p dir=3D"ltr">Of course, to put that in perspective, I also think domain s=
> earch lists are a dangerous practice for the same reason. </p>
> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 18, 2016 1=
> 2:59 PM, "Andrew Sullivan" <<a href=3D"mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusd=
> en.com">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><bloc=
> kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
> c solid;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:48:49PM +0900, Ray Bel=
> lis wrote:<br>
> > I don't always want to have to use an mDNS point-and-click "b=
> rowser" to<br>
> > discover these services.<br>
> <br>
> I think the point is that geeky people who are using ssh are not<br>
> really the population for whom we need to produce all this.=C2=A0 After<br>
> all, if you're comfortable at a command line you could probably just<br=
> >
> run a split-brain DNS for yourself in your homenet.<br>
> <br>
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