Chris, and Debbie, thank you both. It sounds like what I probably happened on was a trumpet mpc close enough to my horn mpc to make me happy.
My horn mpc is a one-piece, but I have been meaning to see about getting it copied, anyway, so I will take the opportunity to see about getting a trumpet mpc with similar rim at the same time. Thank you both again, and thanks to everyone else on the list for their good advice. -S- On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chris Wilhjelm <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve, > Occasionally, I have the opportunity to double on trumpet and horn when > playing at the high holy days at the Cathedral in Newark. As long as the > parts don't go high (I always play as the 3rd trumpet, I'm pretty much > okay). As you might expect this often requires picking up the trumpet with > no warm-up and immediately going back to playing the horn. A few years ago > when at the Schilke booth at the the Midwest Band and Orchestra clinic, I > described my issue with them and they quickly pointed to a mouthpiece. I > looked at it and it had similar inner dimesions to a very high horn > mouthpiece (or an alto horn mouthpiece) with a trumpet rim. At first, I > thought it was a cornet mouthpiece due to the lenght, but the salesman > quickly pointed out that it was indeed a trumpet mouthpiece, and it had to > be significantly shorter because it would play very flat for a trumpet > player. Ironically the mouthpiece was designed for trumpet players who > specialize on high parts who have significant issues when playing in the low > register. With this mouthpiece they can play with a nice tone on the low > notes of the trumpet. > > I find that I can switch quickly back and forth with this mouthpiece (you > may also try a variety of rotary valve trumpet mouthpieces designed for > professional orchestral players - I have some success with these as well. > With my limited experience, I would recommend NOT using a horn mouthpiece > with an adapter. The rim is simply too narrow for the trumpet, the trumpet > players use the cushioned rim for good reason. > > My two cents - and worth about that much. > Chris > >>>> Steve Freides <[email protected]> 07/31/10 10:17 AM >>> > I intend to keep playing both, so I'm just trying to educate myself. > I wish I had a better formed question(s) than I do, truth be told. > I'm trying to make switching work as well as possible without > "cheating", e.g., if using a certain mpc on the trumpet makes > switching easier but will hinder certain aspects of trumpet playing, > that's the kind of thing I want to know and to avoid - better > switching should be harder than I should end up slighting my playing > on the second instrument. > > It seems that this all boils down to personal preference, and maybe > I've already got all the info I need. Time to ask less and practice > more for me. > > -S- > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Debbie Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: >> What are you trying to do? Are you trying to learn from horn players about >> trumpet mpcs? Are you trying to make an easier transition to trumpet , will >> you be switching between the two horns ? >> If you are looking for technical info google "mouthpiece comparison chart" >> and either horn or trumpet. That should give you a better idea. >> In general trumpet players start on Bach mpcs and many of my colleagues >> still play Bach's. Like horn there are a myriad of speciality mouthpiece >> manufactures . >> >> >> >> Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 31, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Steve Freides <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Kerri Bridges <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Matt's email made just want to chime in. I had the same problem when I >>>> first >>>> started playing horn in addition to the clarinet. I could play each >>>> instrument in separate sittings but trying to switch between both in a >>>> single sitting didn't work. My ' F' ear would be gone and if I did hit >>>> the >>>> right notes on the horn, they'd be even more sharper than normal. >>>> >>>> It's probably not just an engineer thing. I noticed that most musical >>>> pit >>>> books double on the winds or brass (minus horn) while horn is in its own >>>> book. >>>> >>>> Kerri (now 90% horn, 10% clarinet) >>> >>> I haven't tried to play both back to back just yet, but I'm one of >>> those geeks who reads everything at concert pitch so I don't expect >>> that part of it to be too difficult for me. Horn is mezzo-soprano >>> clef and one additional flat, trumpet is tenor clef and two additional >>> flats. (I know, it would drive some of you crazy to read this way. >>> Rest assured that the drive to crazy is a very short trip in my case.) >>> >>> Back to my original question: I know that trumpet and horn mpc's have >>> very different shapes, but it would be helpful to know a few things >>> about measurements or dimensions that are comparable, e.g., I'm >>> getting the feeling that, generally speaking, French Horn mpc rim >>> diameters might be similar but a little larger than trumpet - is that >>> a fair generalization to make? It's sounding like it might be time >>> for me to know the actual dimension of the horn mpc I play, which is >>> made by esteemed list member Herr Pizka, and how different or not that >>> one is from a 'normal' horn mpc as well. >>> >>> A possibly unrelated observation: I have picked the horn and mpc I >>> play because, at my stage of development, the most important >>> characteristic isn't what make me necessarily sound best, but what I >>> feel offers me the most feedback about my playing technique. Hans' >>> mouthpiece, for me, seems to offer both better and worse playing than >>> I got from other mpcs I tried, and that feels like a good thing as I >>> try to improve. I own two horns and the one I play on is, without a >>> doubt, the worse of the two, but I find that when I play on the better >>> one for a few weeks, my playing gets worse, almost as if I start >>> letting the horn do some of the work for me. >>> >>> I have no idea if any of the above makes any sense, but that is how it >>> seems to me. We now return you to your previously scheduled >>> programming. :) >>> >>> -S- >>> >>> -S- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at >>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/jasoncat%40aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/steve.freides%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
