Must have been German exports between 1934 & 1938 perhaps. No more exports in 1939, no swastika stamped exports prior 1934, as the nazi came to power 1933 Jan 30th & also needed some time to penetrate all ways of life.
If you spend some time in the oil & gas "bidniz", was that in Russia perhaps (spelling ?) ###################################################################################################### Am 11.08.2010 um 12:51 schrieb Bill Gross: > Interesting sidebar, in a previous life I spent some time in the oil and gas > bidniz. One of the guys I worked with held a position in an Amoco (as I > recall) Refinery in Texas City. Amoco had purchased some process units > built in Germany in the 1930s. The inspectors stamps on the steel > fabrications all bore the swastika of the Nazi government. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Hans Pizka > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:39 AM > To: [email protected]; The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] 1926 NY Phil > > The strongest anti-nazi laws are in Austria. Any of their symbols is > outlawed. > The law dates from the time, when Austria was still occupied. > > The swastika can still be seen on most Buddhist monuments, figures, scripts > as it defines the sun & the wheel of life (abstracted, as there is the full > wheel symbol also used widely). Yes, and I have seen it on many temples or > shrines in India also. Just to confirm. > > If an old horn has the swastika engraved & dates from prior 1930, it could > have been used by an SS-brass-band or owned by an "adorer" of this political > terror movement. > > Yes, if the horn is inspected by customs & one has to show it to the "wrong" > person, it could become confiscated (rarely) in Germany, but would be > confiscated in Austria, if no valid explanation can be offered. > > But why not camouflage it by an elegant plaque ? > > ####################################################################### > > Am 11.08.2010 um 07:45 schrieb Steve Haflich: > >> Milton -- >> >> The swastika you describe on this horn almost certainly _is_ a Nazi >> swastika. There is a good history of the swastika at >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika which explains that >> >> - The swastika was derived (apparently independently) by several >> indigenous cultures. >> >> - There is probably a common derivation among Asian and European >> cultures -- going back millennia -- from Hindu symbology. There is a >> (unrotated) related swastika in Japanese kanji going back into >> antiquity. (It is still used on maps as a marker for Buddhist temples >> -- I have modern maps with this symbol.) >> >> - Prior to the adoption by the Nazi party, the symbol was not >> particularly associated with evil -- rather the opposite. It has a >> long and benign history even in Europe. >> >> - But even before Hitler became chancellor of the Nazi party, the >> symbol had been officially adopted by the Nazi party in 1920, and >> used unofficially even earlier. >> >> - Use or display of the swastika is prohibited in Germany today, >> except for its use as a symbol in religious context. Germany tried >> to get this prohibition extended to the entire EU, but this was >> rejected. (I don't know if there are in Germany exceptions for >> historical items, but probably there are.) >> >> Anyway, Milton, it is almost certain the swastika on your horn has >> some relation to the Nazi emblem. (Were there any Buddhists working >> at Alex in the 1920's?) That in itself is harmless especially if the >> date was 1930, prior to Nazi ascendancy. But I wouldn't travel with >> this particular horn to any gigs in Germany. Could invite trouble at >> the airport. >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.c >> om > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.ne > t > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
