Unless you have a conductor who always suspects the new guy and immediately 
cast his glance to the 4th horn. (our little group only). 

On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Milton Kicklighter <kicklighg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Listen Guys and Gals,
>  
> After playing 4th for ever and yes I have played all parts at one time or 
> another and as a pro.... YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND....  When the 4th misses a note 
> he 
> looks at the 3rd...  the 3rd looks at the 2nd.... and the 2nd.... if they 
> have 
> the courage.... looks at the 1st.... and they all look at the assistant!!!  
> :)  
> And of coarse the assistant looks at the conductor and throws up their hands 
> in 
> which case the conductor has no idea who missed.  :) :) :)
> 
>  Milton
> Milton Kicklighter
> 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
> Retired 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Beeker <debee...@comcast.net>
> To: horn@memphis.edu
> Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 10:48:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] fitting in as part of getting a job
> 
> <tutti parts are part of a whole and can hide such that the conductor will 
> never 
> say a word to them>
> 
> I find the concept that the first horn is accountable and the tutti 
> players not accountable rather interesting. It is a different world than 
> I grew up where all players were/are expected to play at a professional 
> level regardless of the gig.  A conductor who did not in one way or the 
> other act to correct poor playing on the part of any player would not be 
> held in very high esteem. A direct confrontation is not always the best 
> route, not only because of union issues but because of human nature. 
> Now, how much effort a conductor or section leader will go to correct 
> such problems is debateable. For a permanent member of the group I would 
> expect a large effort as poor playing/missed notes or whatever does 
> refect on the whole group. Of course that action is often tempered by 
> reality - who is available to replace the miscreant? Are there even 
> players available who can play the parts? Will too much "guidance" 
> produce a negative result and make the whole groups performance worse? 
> For a temporary replacement who shows up for the Saturday rehearsal to 
> play on Sunday, it seems rather pointless other than to tell that person 
> he/she needs to square a few things away if they want future 
> opportunities with the group.
> 
> After all musicians are human and not robotons. Such things are not 
> always as easy to fix as say a tire with a nail.
> 
> BTW, in spite of fear of being flamed, what means "tutti" in this 
> context - accompanying parts? Being from the landlocked midwest of the 
> USA there are sometimes language differences. Fortunately it is said 
> music is the universal language. Now if I could just figure out Kopprasch...
> 
> Last Unprincipled Horn.
> BSO
> 
> aka Dan Beeker
> 
> (And no it is not Boston... it is the Bloomington Symphony Orchestra)
> 
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