Milton, That one's really funny! Thanks for a good chuckle today.
I'll have to remember to do that when I lay out a horrible clam and then I'll shoot "the look" at the Principal, since I try to be one of those seconds that make guys like Hans sound good... Walt Lewis 2nd Horn, Grosse Pointe Symphony Orchestra Grosse Pointe, Michigan --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Milton Kicklighter <kicklighg...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Milton Kicklighter <kicklighg...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] fitting in as part of getting a job To: debee...@comcast.net, "The Horn List" <horn@memphis.edu> Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 11:07 AM Listen Guys and Gals, After playing 4th for ever and yes I have played all parts at one time or another and as a pro.... YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.... When the 4th misses a note he looks at the 3rd... the 3rd looks at the 2nd.... and the 2nd.... if they have the courage.... looks at the 1st.... and they all look at the assistant!!! :) And of coarse the assistant looks at the conductor and throws up their hands in which case the conductor has no idea who missed. :) :) :) Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic Retired ________________________________ From: Dan Beeker <debee...@comcast.net> To: horn@memphis.edu Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 10:48:06 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] fitting in as part of getting a job <tutti parts are part of a whole and can hide such that the conductor will never say a word to them> I find the concept that the first horn is accountable and the tutti players not accountable rather interesting. It is a different world than I grew up where all players were/are expected to play at a professional level regardless of the gig. A conductor who did not in one way or the other act to correct poor playing on the part of any player would not be held in very high esteem. A direct confrontation is not always the best route, not only because of union issues but because of human nature. Now, how much effort a conductor or section leader will go to correct such problems is debateable. For a permanent member of the group I would expect a large effort as poor playing/missed notes or whatever does refect on the whole group. Of course that action is often tempered by reality - who is available to replace the miscreant? Are there even players available who can play the parts? Will too much "guidance" produce a negative result and make the whole groups performance worse? For a temporary replacement who shows up for the Saturday rehearsal to play on Sunday, it seems rather pointless other than to tell that person he/she needs to square a few things away if they want future opportunities with the group. After all musicians are human and not robotons. Such things are not always as easy to fix as say a tire with a nail. BTW, in spite of fear of being flamed, what means "tutti" in this context - accompanying parts? Being from the landlocked midwest of the USA there are sometimes language differences. Fortunately it is said music is the universal language. Now if I could just figure out Kopprasch... Last Unprincipled Horn. BSO aka Dan Beeker (And no it is not Boston... it is the Bloomington Symphony Orchestra) _______________________________________________ post: horn@memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: horn@memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: horn@memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
