But bet none of us ever got the view from ABOVE the orchestra before....
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Penny Ward Marcus" <[email protected]>
To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Tonight on PBS: Chicago,Boulez, Mahler


> But please, you don't have a better shot than the decapitated mandolin
> player?  There were  many truly bad decisions for camera placement
> (including from the floor up on the basses)
> that could have been better right from the start.  I would rather have
> cameras placed to each section as a whole than the strange choices that 
> were
> made here.
>
> PWM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Debbie Schmidt" <[email protected]>
> To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Tonight on PBS: Chicago,Boulez, Mahler
>
>
>>I do think that is a little unfair. This was a live broadcast and I am 
>>sure
>> there was no money for retakes. When you have a series like Live from
>> Lincoln Center the crew including the cameramen stay the same year in 
>> year
>> out, they know the guys in the orchestra and they know the instruments.
>>
>> When you have a situation like this the crew does not get a lot of
>> practice
>> for an individual show and certainly over the course of many seasons the
>> chance to hone their skills
>> Orchestra Hall was not built for camera positions initially and it takes 
>> a
>> lot of work to get cameras in place (patrons in seats displaced) and
>> lights
>> in place.
>>
>> It is possible that Boulez was not the intended shot but there was a
>> camera
>> problem or other technical issue. It is possible that Dale or  someone
>> else
>> moved a chair on stage and the intended shot was no longer any good so
>> they
>> went with Boulez. Lots of possibilities With live TV and without the
>> opportunity for retakes. We should all be thrilled we got to see and hear
>> this performance.
>>
>>
>> On 10/28/10 12:23 PM, "William.S.Gross" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> BUT - showing a conductor instead of horn players derives a strong
>>> penalty v
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:17 AM, "Chris Wilhjelm"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> William,
>>>> I have to throw in my two cents on this:
>>>>
>>>> Defunding NPR is a little harsh don't you think?
>>>>
>>>> Anytime anybody in the country is willing to broadcast Mahler 7, or the
>>>> Chicago Symphony, or Boulez conducting anything, its a victory as far 
>>>> as
>>>> I'm
>>>> concerned.  There is so much out there and I work in the world where
>>>> "Glee"
>>>> is considered the single most important cultural accomplishment of the
>>>> decade
>>>> (don't get me wrong, I'm really glad that its there, it has inspired
>>>> many
>>>> students to get involved with music).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> William Gross <[email protected]> 10/28/2010 10:50 AM >>>
>>>> The performance was great, the broadcast was a good reson to defund 
>>>> NPR.
>>>>
>>>> The voice over guy said the 1st movment would begin with a "horn" solo.
>>>> In
>>>> the world of popular music "horn'" has taken on the meaning of any wind
>>>> isntrument.  You would expect an announcer doing the Chicago Symphony 
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> able to destiguish and point out the difference between the Tenor Horn
>>>> used
>>>> and French Horn.
>>>>
>>>> Second movement - not sure but think it began with extended horn work.
>>>> It
>>>> sounded like one or perhaps two horns or horn and tenorhorn.  No one
>>>> else
>>>> playing the camera stayed on Boulez the until other instruments were
>>>> added.
>>>>
>>>> Great music - bad television.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:29 PM, John Edwin Mason
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Pardon the double post, folks, but those of you in the US will 
>>>>> probably
>>>>> want to be reminded that tonight's Great Performances program on PBS
>>>>> features Pierre Boulez conducting the Chicago Symphony in Mahler 7.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check you local listings:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/episodes/chicago-symphony-orchestra-pierre-bou
>>>>> lez-conducts-mahler%E2%80%99s-7th/preview-the-concert/1035/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2azstyd
>>>>>
>>>>> --John
>>>>>
>>>>> ******************************
>>>>> John Edwin Mason, Photography:
>>>>> http://www.JohnEdwinMason.com <http://www.johnedwinmason.com/>
>>>>> Charlottesville and Cape Town
>>>>>
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