Hans, you are right, but there is one hurdle:

if younger players are not prepared enough technically enough to meet the 
demand of a very challenging piece
they might get stuck with the obstacles of that particular piece for a longer 
period of time. If they are mature enough technically, 
to meet the demands of such a piece, they might work on it for a week or two 
only, so not to waste their precious study time.

Gradually - really gradually - achieving progress in playing technique, brought 
to them by more & more demanding pieces & etudes progressively,
these students might grow much faster than confronted with a piece exceeding 
their abilities very much or too much.

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Am 12.11.2010 um 11:11 schrieb Hans Denayer:

> Wilbert wrote:
> ===================================================================================================
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I really want your honest opinion on the following.
> 
> I have a friend, a college freshman non-music major, who is playing in a 
> local 
> college/community orchestra.  Her horn teacher has her working on Schumann's 
> Adagio and Allegro.  I feel this selection is entirely too difficult for a 
> freshman.  I saved it for my Graduate Recital!
> 
> This student does not yet know her major and minor scales and arpeggios, two 
> octaves.  She has not worked through any type of exercise book such as Singer 
> of 
> Standley.  She has never been introduced to the Farkas warm up.  She has 
> never 
> played her way through Kopprasch book one.
> 
> Am I out of line here?  I always thought that to play music, let alone to 
> play 
> music musically, one had to have a firm foundation in technique.  How do you 
> feel?
> 
> I've seen this teacher do the same type of things to other students in the 
> past.  I feel she is totally wrong, and is placing a brick wall before her 
> students that they just can't climb over.  It's one thing to challenge a 
> student, it's another thing to frustrate them.
> 
> Wilbert in SC
> ====================================================================================================
> 
> 
> I have a related story about the Adagio & Allegro.
> 
> Once I was walking on the street with my horn in a fixed bell case and an old 
> man stopped me. He said: "That's a horn isn't it?" I answered him yes and the 
> conversation continued that his father had been a horn teacher of the 
> Conservatory of this town and that he had some old scores at home. He asked 
> if I 
> would like them. After writing him a note, visiting him in his house and 
> listening to some war stories, he gave me the score of the Adagio & Allegro. 
> He 
> said it was his favourite peace and he would very much like to hear it once 
> again. At that time it was also much too difficult for me, but together with 
> my 
> accompanist (and stephfather) I set my goal of playing it through once a 
> year. 
> Now, 6 years later, I will play it for my final exam at the same 
> conservatory. 
> Hopefully I can still reach the old man to invite him to my recital.
> 
> Morale of the story: sometimes it can be challenging to play a piece that is 
> too 
> difficult and set it as a long term goal to play it in some years. If that's 
> the 
> only thing you are working on, then I don't think it's a very good idea to 
> build 
> such a barrier.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Hans from Belgium (not the other Hans!)
> 
> 
> 
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