Sounds like surgery could be in your future since you plan on a musical future playing horn,http://www.ajronline.org/cgi/reprint/108/4/825.pdf check this article out. John Wilber RN Principal horn Orchestra Northern Arizonz In a message dated 11/25/2010 4:58:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Things have happened, and about a month ago I started to develop a throat problem. The only way it was even noticed is because when observing my embochure with a mirror it caught my eye. I recently went to doctors around town and it seems that while it is know what exactly the problem is, the cause and complications are unknown. I have developed what is called a bilateral laryngocele. Basically because of some reason, when back pressure(from playing is the greatest example) is put on my throat, the windpipe shifts to the left and a really large air bubble causes my neck to puff out quite expansively. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, however due to its size and the fact that it is indeed bilateral, the doctors around town are particularly clueless as to more specifics. The most recent doctor presented his normal solution if somebody else would have it, to quit horn playing. But he said that since I am going to be a music major I really can't just quit. So we are now waiting for another specialist to examine the CT scan, and get thoughts as to what a solution would be. One thing that has been said is whatever happens I'm pretty much going to make it into textbooks because of this. So I had the idea to ask other horn players, since some of you have a lot of experience in your lives, if you have ever heard of this. If any of you have had say a student with this problem. Or something. Thoughts, etc. Thank you for your time. > From: [email protected] > Subject: Horn Digest, Vol 95, Issue 24 > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:00:02 -0600 > > Send Horn mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/horn > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Horn digest..." > > > Please edit replies to include only relevant text. Please DO NOT include the entire digest in your reply. For more netiquette information, see: > > http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > Today's Topics: > > 1. I need your opinion (Rafael Arias) > 2. I need your opinion (Rafael Arias) > 3. Re: I need your opinion (Hans Pizka) > 4. 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I need your opinion (Rafael Arias) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:49:36 -0430 > From: Rafael Arias <[email protected]> > Subject: [Hornlist] I need your opinion > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, I am making an audition for the Youtube symphony orchestra and I would > like your opinion about my video for the audition. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59XMW_GBcw > > Waiting for an answer > > Rafael Arias > > -- > Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:52:33 -0430 > From: Rafael Arias <[email protected]> > Subject: [Hornlist] I need your opinion > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, I am making an audition for the Youtube symphony orchestra and I would > like your opinion about my video for the audition. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59XMW_GBcw > > Waiting for an answer > > Rafael Arias > > > -- > Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:59:24 +0100 > From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] I need your opinion > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello Raffael, > > I?ll give you my very frank answer: > > I?ll not talk about the Till much, but why the low F (concert) so short & just "pfaaht" instead of "mucho sonore profondo" and not > that short, beside other things. > > Isn?t the great ff passage from R.Strauss "Don Juan" in the key of "E" (Mi) ? And isn?t that a real ff, con tutta forza, mui largo, con > tanta sonorita ? And the last high note not squeezed, but held with crescendo ? > > Did you ever listen to Beethoven No.9 ? I doubt that, as you play the solo to make everybody fall asleep ... and this solo is a very intimate solo (on natural horn most notes would be muted !). The beginning does not sound at all, the low notes getting out of control and are not held properly. The ritardando at the scale is much over done. > > Did you ever look at the title of Mendelssohn?s "Nocturno" ? It is a night song, some kind of a Serenata, to be played as sweat as possible, not in mf as you do. It is some kind of a love song, much tender, full of romantic, the upbeat played like a viola with > up bow twice. And you played it in a tempo like a Marching band, but it MUST be much slower at metronom 84 perhaps. And the up beat: tak - ta - tah. Why the dotted eight note that short ? > > the good thing is your intonation. Other bad thing is: too many weak notes, starting with insecurity (grrrt). > > By the way, the Mozart was also too uniform in sound, no expression at all. > > How to better things ? Quite easy. Lay the horn down. Try to sing the excerpts. Try to sing the Mozart. And try to give the pieces a soul. It does not need much effort to change your playing to the better. You can better the things surely, if you want to do it. > > Bring the music in a higher position on the music stand (atril) , so not to look down & close your throat by the wrong position. Try it, playing standing upright, holding the horn upright. You will notice the new quality within very few tries. > > Good luck. > > ###################################################################################################### > > Am 24.11.2010 um 19:19 schrieb Rafael Arias: > > > Hi, I am making an audition for the Youtube symphony orchestra and I would > > like your opinion about my video for the audition. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59XMW_GBcw > > > > Waiting for an answer > > > > Rafael Arias > > > > -- > > Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es > > _______________________________________________ > > post: [email protected] > > unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:52:39 -0430 > From: Rafael Arias <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] I need your opinion > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thank you hans for your Reply and critic, a litle sour but well received. > > About the mozart, I tried to keep it simple. But I will work on that you > have toll me. > > Thank you again for your reply. > > Rafael > > > 2010/11/24 Hans Pizka <[email protected]> > > > Hello Raffael, > > > > I?ll give you my very frank answer: > > > > I?ll not talk about the Till much, but why the low F (concert) so short & > > just "pfaaht" instead of "mucho sonore profondo" and not > > that short, beside other things. > > > > Isn?t the great ff passage from R.Strauss "Don Juan" in the key of "E" (Mi) > > ? And isn?t that a real ff, con tutta forza, mui largo, con > > tanta sonorita ? And the last high note not squeezed, but held with > > crescendo ? > > > > Did you ever listen to Beethoven No.9 ? I doubt that, as you play the solo > > to make everybody fall asleep ... and this solo is a very intimate solo (on > > natural horn most notes would be muted !). The beginning does not sound at > > all, the low notes getting out of control and are not held properly. The > > ritardando at the scale is much over done. > > > > Did you ever look at the title of Mendelssohn?s "Nocturno" ? It is a night > > song, some kind of a Serenata, to be played as sweat as possible, not in mf > > as you do. It is some kind of a love song, much tender, full of romantic, > > the upbeat played like a viola with > > up bow twice. And you played it in a tempo like a Marching band, but it > > MUST be much slower at metronom 84 perhaps. And the up beat: tak - ta - tah. > > Why the dotted eight note that short ? > > > > the good thing is your intonation. Other bad thing is: too many weak notes, > > starting with insecurity (grrrt). > > > > By the way, the Mozart was also too uniform in sound, no expression at all. > > > > How to better things ? Quite easy. Lay the horn down. Try to sing the > > excerpts. Try to sing the Mozart. And try to give the pieces a soul. It does > > not need much effort to change your playing to the better. You can better > > the things surely, if you want to do it. > > > > Bring the music in a higher position on the music stand (atril) , so not to > > look down & close your throat by the wrong position. Try it, playing > > standing upright, holding the horn upright. You will notice the new quality > > within very few tries. > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > ###################################################################################################### > > > > Am 24.11.2010 um 19:19 schrieb Rafael Arias: > > > > > Hi, I am making an audition for the Youtube symphony orchestra and I > > would > > > like your opinion about my video for the audition. > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59XMW_GBcw > > > > > > Waiting for an answer > > > > > > Rafael Arias > > > > > > -- > > > Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es > > > _______________________________________________ > > > post: [email protected] > > > unsubscribe or set options at > > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > post: [email protected] > > unsubscribe or set options at > > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/rafaelefucho%40gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:55:45 -0430 > From: Rafael Arias <[email protected]> > Subject: [Hornlist] I need your opinion > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thank you hans for your Reply and critic, a litle sour but well received. > > About the mozart, I tried to keep it simple. But I will work on that you > have toll me. > > Thank you again for your reply. > > Rafael > > > 2010/11/24 Hans Pizka <[email protected]> > > Hello Raffael, > > > > I?ll give you my very frank answer: > > > > I?ll not talk about the Till much, but why the low F (concert) so short & > > just "pfaaht" instead of "mucho sonore profondo" and not > > that short, beside other things. > > > > Isn?t the great ff passage from R.Strauss "Don Juan" in the key of "E" (Mi) > > ? And isn?t that a real ff, con tutta forza, mui largo, con > > tanta sonorita ? And the last high note not squeezed, but held with > > crescendo ? > > > > Did you ever listen to Beethoven No.9 ? I doubt that, as you play the solo > > to make everybody fall asleep ... and this solo is a very intimate solo (on > > natural horn most notes would be muted !). The beginning does not sound at > > all, the low notes getting out of control and are not held properly. The > > ritardando at the scale is much over done. > > > > Did you ever look at the title of Mendelssohn?s "Nocturno" ? It is a night > > song, some kind of a Serenata, to be played as sweat as possible, not in mf > > as you do. It is some kind of a love song, much tender, full of romantic, > > the upbeat played like a viola with > > up bow twice. And you played it in a tempo like a Marching band, but it > > MUST be much slower at metronom 84 perhaps. And the up beat: tak - ta - tah. > > Why the dotted eight note that short ? > > > > the good thing is your intonation. Other bad thing is: too many weak notes, > > starting with insecurity (grrrt). > > > > By the way, the Mozart was also too uniform in sound, no expression at all. > > > > How to better things ? Quite easy. Lay the horn down. Try to sing the > > excerpts. Try to sing the Mozart. And try to give the pieces a soul. It does > > not need much effort to change your playing to the better. You can better > > the things surely, if you want to do it. > > > > Bring the music in a higher position on the music stand (atril) , so not to > > look down & close your throat by the wrong position. Try it, playing > > standing upright, holding the horn upright. You will notice the new quality > > within very few tries. > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > ###################################################################################################### > > > > Am 24.11.2010 um 19:19 schrieb Rafael Arias: > > > > > Hi, I am making an audition for the Youtube symphony orchestra and I > > would > > > like your opinion about my video for the audition. > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59XMW_GBcw > > > > > > Waiting for an answer > > > > > > Rafael Arias > > > > > > -- > > > Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es > > > _______________________________________________ > > > post: [email protected] > > > unsubscribe or set options at > > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > post: [email protected] > > unsubscribe or set options at > > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/rafaelefucho%40gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es > > > > -- > Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/horn > > End of Horn Digest, Vol 95, Issue 24 > ************************************ _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/johnlwilber%40aol.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
