This reminds me of the Krufft Sonata. In some ways the piano part is just as difficult as the Beethoven. At least, as I've been told by pianists. -William In a message dated 3/14/2011 6:43:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Thanks, interesting reading on this cursed day. (If you are outside the US, it's the first work day of Day Light Savings Time. So instead of getting up at 5 AM, it's 4 AM masquerading as 5 AM by act of Congress.) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary Greene Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:07 PM To: Horn-List Subject: [Hornlist] Accompanied Sonatas On 13 March 2011, [email protected] wrote regarding the Beethoven Sonata "I had always assumed that this work was for solo horn with piano accompaniment. I was listening to it yesterday and recalled what Hans has said about the Mozart work for string and horn, the horn was part of the ensemble. Is that the case the Beethoven that it is a work as much for piano as it is for horn?" The Beethoven sonata, along with his sonatas for cello/piano and violin/piano are part of the last gasp of a tradition sometimes called the "accompanied keyboard sonata." In the middle of the 18th century, keyboard sonatas were often given an "obligato" instrument which accompanied the keyboard. That is, these were, as Hans points out by given us the original title of the Beethoven horn sonata, keyboard sonatas accompanied by another instrument and not sonatas for a solo instrument accompanied by the keyboard (which is how we conceptualize them today). These were different from a parallel tradition that involved a solo instrument accompanied by keyboard, in which latter case the keyboard part was often simply a thoroughbass line that the keyboardist was expected to realize. Two different views of a sonata involving keyboard and solo instrument existing side by side in the 18th century. Having said that, let me add the expected musicological waffling! :-) 1. That a work might be entitled something like "sonata for piano with horn accompaniment" does not mean that the piano part could be played minus the horn as a solo sonata. The horn part is obbligato (obligatory). 2. "Accompaniment" did not then carry the negative weight of being a lesser or merely supporting role. The term would have suggested a partnership--chamber music. 3. Performers today playing such sonatas therefore should not relegate their keyboard players to the background reflexively; it's a joint effort. So, [email protected], the answer to your question is "yes." 4. But in some cases, the musical content DOES indicate a subordinate relationship of one performer in favor of another, so...it's not a joint effort. So be aware of these traditions but also look at the music to see if the composer is communicating a partnership or a lead actor with a supporting player...and be aware that the supporting player is not necessarily the keyboard. One other lesson here: all of this points up the need to know what the composer wrote. We usually think of this in terms of pitches and rhythms, but what a composer calls a piece is very often a clue to his intent. An 18th-century sinfonie concertante and a concerto for multiple instruments might strike us today as seeming like pretty much the same thing, but a composer then was likely thinking of two different kinds of things when he labeled the pieces as two different genres. Same way when Wagner has an oveture for Rienzi but a prelude for Lohengrin--both are instrumental pieces that open operas, but the terms overture and prelude signal different conceptualizations. Hope these comments are helpful. Gary Greene, Ph.D. _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.ne t _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
