Hi Hans,  Lucas Foss already did it.  Along with a few other composers.  You 
would NOT believe the sounds and pitches I learned to play on the horn when I 
first came to the Buffalo Phil.  

Milton
Milton Kicklighter
4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
Retired

From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]>
>To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Temperature & pitch
>
>Please, William, do not give such informations to living composers, 
>As they Mighty use this Special physical sensations As apart of their
>Creations, perhaps. Who knows.
>
>Regstes from South Brazil
>
>Hans
>
>Von meinem iPad gesendet
>
>Am 21.04.2011 um 15:03 schrieb [email protected]:
>
>> Sound waves have a lot to do with the medium they travel through. They  
>> propagate at different speeds in different fluids. If you ever want to try  
>> something amusing on an old horn, take a vial of tetrafluoroethane 
>> (compressed  
>> air duster can) and squeeze a bit into your horn, then play. DO NOT INHALE 
>> THIS  GAS. Breathe in well away from the instrument. You'll find a very 
>> amazing pitch  change as the gas changes from tetrafluoroethane to 'air'. 
>> 
>> If you can find a helium tank, try it out. If you can afford a sulfur  
>> hexaflouride tank, also try it out. I've never done it, but from what I've 
>> heard 
>> it do to the human voice it could really give you a super low range ;)
>> 
>> Just don't breathe those gases in without knowing the consequences - or how 
>> to get sulfur hexaflouride out of your lungs.
>> 
>> -William
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 4/21/2011 1:58:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>> [email protected] writes:
>> 
>> 1.  Because sound waves travel faster the hotter the air column is.
>> 
>> 2. I  have no first hand experience with horns, but from my trombone 
>> experiences  
>> I know, that an instrument made out of thin gauge red brass is much more  
>> sensitive to ambient temperature, especially during long rests, than  
>> instruments 
>> out of thicker gauge yellow brass. Thickness is a factor as is  the heat 
>> conductivity of the alloy. The thin gauge instrument then also  will raise 
>> in 
>> pitch much sooner with continuous playing. 
>> 
>> 3. With  the tuning fork the length of the branches is a factor, so that a 
>> tuning  
>> fork theoretically would flatten when heated.
>> 
>> When metal string  guitarists, as in rock bands, are going for an indoor 
>> tune up 
>> for for an  outdoor evening concert with fixed pitch electronic keyboards, 
>> then 
>> they  tune slightly flat. With the lower outdoor temperatures the metal 
>> strings  
>> will shrink thereby raising the  pitch.
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From:  valerie wells <[email protected]>
>> To: horn list 2 memphis  <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 7:28:17 PM
>> Subject:  [Hornlist] Temperature & pitch
>> 
>> I would be grateful to anyone who  even attempts to answer the following
>> questions for me.
>> 
>> 1. Why does  a warm horn play sharper than a cold horn?
>> 2. Would different alloys effect  how much the pitch changes with
>> temperature?
>> 3. And finally, does a  tuning fork go a little sharp when it's  warmed?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Valerie
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