Hello Simon, hello horn fans & horn enthusiasts,

you can find out these "irregularities" on certain pitches on both sides of 
your horn by playing the chords WITHOUT lipping up or down, best to do without 
any warm up.

You are on the right way, when you ADAPT your intonation to the instruments you 
are playing along.
It is absolutely NECESSARY to know the actual principal voice in the section or 
in the ensemble, to adapt to. 

Furthermore, intonation is not only a thing of the right pitch but the same 
time a matter of dynamics. If the several voices of a chord are all equally 
loud or equally soft, it might happen, that the chord will
never sound in tune, but if the main note or the most important note of the 
chord is more prominent than the others, the chord will sound & thus be 
received as perfect tuned. But that needs a lot of experience. This prominent 
note will not be with the first horn always.

This was the reason, why we had a special wagnertuba rehearsal before EVERY 
performance, not to
try out the instruments, but to BALANCE the chords. So it be for the horns too. 

During performances nobody has a chance to retune or rebalance such chords, but 
he or she has the ears to adapt to the main voice. He or she must be willing to 
subordinate themselves to the actual
leading voice.

This WILLINGNESS seems the main problem for many of you, first horns included, 
professionals
as well as amateurs of all grades. 

Think about.
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Am 09.05.2011 um 08:54 schrieb Simon Varnam:

> 
> Hans wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, what kind of silly questions or  innocent questions. Have you never 
>> hear or read anything
>> about the  relations of the natural pitches ? Has your teacher never told 
>> you something  about it  ?
> 
> Innocent, or at worst ignorant, on my part.
> That's the problem. Yes, I have heard, but not been taught enough.
> I know about the pitches available in the horn's natural harmonics, but not 
> the problem of which notes of the scale need to be sharper/flatter than the 
> mechanical intervals on my electronic tuner. Nor why...
> Presumably the relationships stay the same in other keys, but then I hear of 
> certain keys having their own special characteristics, or is that only on the 
> "properly" tuned piano? 
> Can we rely on the clarinets and violins (and even the saxophones) to observe 
> the same conventions, or do their instruments do it automatically so they 
> don't need to think about it?
> And what happens when the harmony changes? 
> 
> Ah, it would be so nice to be able to say not merely "That note is out of 
> tune" but be able to give an impressive reason explaining why...
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
> 
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