Some say you should free buzz, some say you should NOT. Some of us cannot free buzz. This may have to do with mouth and lip structure.
One size does not fit all. Herb Foster ________________________________ From: William Bard <[email protected]> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 1:42:53 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues I think the position of the tongue is likely a big factor in this. Some days, my tonguing feels great and the easiest thing in the world, and other days it feels like a rock that I'm having to lug back and forth in my mouth. Not easy at all. I'm hoping this will clear up during college and in the years after, as I gain more consistency. I can buzz without the mouthpiece, but I have a VERY tough time doing so. It's difficult to actually create pitches I want, without the mouthpiece. -William Bard On Jun 27, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Milton Kicklighter wrote: > Don't forget the position of the tongue when you are playing. I got into > real > trouble a few years back not paying attention to the position of the tongue >when > > I was playing. Years ago I found that leaking air for me was to much > pressure > and not enough muscle control. Can you form a embouchure and buzz without > the > mouthpiece? Or do you pinch your lips together when you try to buzz? > > > Milton > > Milton Kicklighter > 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic > Retired > > > > > ________________________________ > From: William Bard <[email protected]> > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 1:05:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues > > The edges are closed tightly, yes. And thanks for the suggestion about the > Italian language! I'll definitely look into that. Thanks. > > -William Bard > > On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:52 AM, Hans Pizka wrote: > >> William, are the edges of your lips (embouchure) closed tightly, so air >> cannot > >> escape there ??? >> Next, do not use that much air. Do not blow air into the horn actively. >> Better, >> >> just release air >> according to pitch, dynamic etc. >> Third, study Italian language, to learn about clear vowels, absolutely clear >> vowels, and clear consonants. You will wonder, how that would improve your >> playing, special tongue action. >> >> Good luck ! >> ################################################# >> Am 27.06.2011 um 04:38 schrieb William Bard: >> >>> I've been playing the horn some seven years, having just graduated high >>> school, >>> >>> and I will begin attending the Eastman School of Music this fall for a >>> degree >>>in >>> >>> Horn Performance. However, before I get up there and start school, I really >>> thought I should ask the members of this board for some advice on an issue >>> (I > >>> think it's an issue...) I've been noticing lately in my playing. >>> >>> Back in February I had a lesson with Rick Solis out in Cleveland, and he >>> pointed out that often times, when I articulate, it sounds almost as though >>> the >>> >>> tongue is rebounding, or something is happening to make the tonguing not >>> quite >> >>> so clear and more blatty sounding. I've especially noticed this when I play >>>loud >>> >>> or technically difficult passages. >>> >>> >>> He and Rich King both pointed out to me in my audition for the Cleveland >>> Institute of Music that it was something I really have to work on and fix >>> over >> >>> the next few years; otherwise it could spell big problems for my playing. >>> They >> >>> said it will "hopefully go away" over time, but this still really worries me. >>> >>> In addition, I can't help but notice an extra sort of buzz to my sound, >>> when I >> >>> play. At times, it is even very airy sounding. I can't figure out yet if >>> this >>>is >>> >>> my horn that is vibrating ever so slightly along with the pitches I'm >>> playing, >> >>> or if this is an internal sound that I'm hearing as the note vibrates >>> through >>>my >>> >>> mouth and possibly through my teeth, or what the heck this is. >>> >>> >>> Obviously, when I take the horn away and buzz on the mouthpiece, it's not >>> just >> >>> the sound of the note I hear, as I can also hear the air flow moving >>> through >>>the >>> >>> mouthpiece. Is tongue placement or something else possibly amplifying the >>> airflow or sound of my buzz, so that it becomes noticeable IN ADDITION to >>> the > >>> sound of the horn, itself? >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have any suggestions or advice regarding this? Or, furthermore, >>> is >> >>> this truly an issue, or is it actually somewhat normal? This is really >>> puzzling >>> >>> to me and I really hope to get it figured out before it's too late! Thanks >>> so > >>> much. >>> >>> -William Bard >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at >>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/wdbard%40me.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at >https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com >m > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at >https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/wdbard%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
