Sch�nberg was once asked by a critic why he wrote "ugly" music. His reply:
"I don't write ugly music, I get ugly performances."  In the early 1950's,
Schonberg's woodwind quintet was considered unplayable, until the Gunther
Schuller recording. It was a triumph, though rough and full of mistakes; now
the quintet is standard repertoire.

Approach everything as if it were great music. Someday you might get
surprised.

Bob Osmun
www.osmun.com

PS to Hans-Hans, I figured out how to get Outlook to produce an umlaut just
for you! All the best, Bob

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Alban Berg is quite different to Schoenberg, dear Bob. Alban Berg is a real
late Romantic composer and his Lulu is one of my favourite operas, having
played it more than 50-times. And he is absolutely out of question.

Schoenbergs Gurrelieder or his Moses & Aaron, well, they have romantic
parts, but I don�t get warm with these pieces. Getting warm, means also
remembering phrases after many years. This is not the case with Schoenberg,
at least for me. From Moses & Aaron I just remember "take off your shoes
......" and the dance around the golden calf, but nothing from the
Gurrelieder. I don�t get very warm with several of the Mahler symphonies
either, as they are too banal for my taste, but great fun to play them,
special no.1,2, 5 & 8.

Schoenberg is quite too much work for a very limited success. We do his
instrumentation of the Brahms Quartet (some kind of no.5 Brahms symphony
???) for ballet. A lot of playing, but common stuff.

And,  I cannot find any fun playing Schoenberg, sorry. But approaching
Schoenberg & his consorts in a manner like approaching Beethovens
symphonies, makes it easier to play their music, much easier. 

If you have a schedule full of boring music, well, then there is just one
choice, approach it if it were great music.

That�s our survival technique. Right , Bob ?

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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 3:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Hornlist] something to think HR

Hi all,

Was moved to write by Hans comment below - over the years, my thinking 
on Schoenberg and his buddies has changed - when I was a student and 
then as a young professional, I used to think of that style of 12-tone 
music as very intellectual and cold - but now, I have realized that the 
key to having it sound right is to approach it and interpret it as a 
Romantic style, since that is the genesis of this genre of music.  
There are many more modern composers that I do think are excessively 
academic and largely devoid of emotional content, but Schoenberg and 
Berg are not among them, in my opinion.

All the best to you, worldwide,

Bob


On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 12:30  AM, Hans Pizka wrote:

> For Schoenberg: you just need to play the written notes as exact as 
> possible. Do you really enjoy Schoenberg ?

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Bob Ward
Acting Principal Horn
San Francisco Symphony
http://home.earthlink.net/~rnward

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