That's interesting that you mention that, because I thought the same thing one
day in class listening to Verklerte Nacht.  I listened to a decent amount of
the 2nd Viennese school this past year, as I took a class about Freud and Fin
De Siecle` Vienna (pardon that if it's horriblely missppeled), and we talked a
lot about expressionist musicians, architects and artists etc. and I enjoyed a
lot of things I heard.  I noticed that some performances I listened to were
very, as you put it, cold and intellectual, but others were very organic and
expressive.  It was the latter performances that I was able to relate to much
more than the former.  

Of Schoenberg, Berg, and Webern, Berg is usually considered the most
"accessible" and I agree.  I personally enjoyed Wozzeck a lot as I thought it
was a combination of new, yet good music.  None of the non-standard things,
like sprechestimme sound like effects.  They, to me, are merely different
sounds.  

I remember listening to a lot of Strauss and Mahler the summer before I took
that class, so at least aurally, I was pretty much going in chronological
order, so noticing the progression was possible.  I think most people first
hear the 2nd Viennese school in music history(myself included) and it usually
is very difficult to comprehend because of the gaps in our own listening.  

I know for me personally, the earliest music that i know is Monteverdi's Orfeo,
but then I essentially skip over most of the baroque(which obviously I should
not) until a bit of Handel and from Mozart to the 2nd Viennese school i'm
fairly well rounded.  I have to admit that I have many gaps in the 20th, 21st
century when it comes to listening.  

I'm young, i have a whole life to patch up my ears.

Chris
--- Robert Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Was moved to write by Hans comment below - over the years, my thinking 
> on Schoenberg and his buddies has changed - when I was a student and 
> then as a young professional, I used to think of that style of 12-tone 
> music as very intellectual and cold - but now, I have realized that the 
> key to having it sound right is to approach it and interpret it as a 
> Romantic style, since that is the genesis of this genre of music.  
> There are many more modern composers that I do think are excessively 
> academic and largely devoid of emotional content, but Schoenberg and 
> Berg are not among them, in my opinion.
> 
> All the best to you, worldwide,
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 12:30  AM, Hans Pizka wrote:
> 
> > For Schoenberg: you just need to play the written notes as exact as
> > possible. Do you really enjoy Schoenberg ?
> 
> ****
> Bob Ward
> Acting Principal Horn
> San Francisco Symphony
> http://home.earthlink.net/~rnward
> 
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