Steve, people buy cheap horns new from the factory. They become
hysterical about oiling, greasing, polishing, cleaning, greasing again,
dismantling, mounting, dismantle, oils, snake brushes etc. They
exaggerate all these practice until the horn is broken regarding valves,
slides etc.

The valves, well,  - if people shake horns back & forth, if they travel
on dirt roads the horn in the trunk, it might happen that inner bearings
get a bit out of place. Result ? The valve gets slow or stuck. Run to
the next available repairman, who has no special training in valve or
slide repair. "Yes, I know. You have the only chance to get this lousy
valve working. Lapping, lapping. I will do it for you !" - The same
happen twice or three times the first year. Then the valve is ruined
definitely, - by inappropriate action. Basta !

Steve, you know that, you know that since years. Every responsible
repairperson knows that. Knows that well. This is not factory error in
most cases (with exceptions), but customers error, sloppyness, missing
common sense, insufficient schooling, not believing others ("I know what
I have to do !" - "It is my horn !" - "Why should I pay for something I
can do by myself !"). But you all don�t speak it out, as you are anxious
to lose customers, potential customers. That�s it 
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In a message dated 3/30/04 1:00:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> In all seriousness, I bet most of us never heard of "factory dust" or 
> lapping
> compound in new horns until the recent hornlist posts. If it were
really a
> problem, wouldn't it have been brought to the general horn-public's
attention
> much earlier?
> 
> 
> Chris
> 

Hi Chris,
    The factories had to change over their cleaning methods only fairly 
recently and they are still working the bugs out.
    It's interesting to me that people are so skeptical about this
subject.  
It's pretty simple.  There's buffing compound in there!  I don't think,
as far 
as I know, that I have any reason to lie to you about that.
    I do unfortunately see people who bring their new horns in after a
year 
or more.  They've taken care of them.  They've cleaned them and oiled
them but 
their valves are already loose, noisy and valve compression is
significantly 
reduced.  Tuning slides have become too loose and move by themselves.
All 
easily preventable, but who would ever think there should be such a
problem with a 
brand new horn?  To me it seems hard to argue with the idea that
abrasives in 
your valves might not be a very good thing, but that's horn players for
you!  
5 horn players, 6 different opinions.

- Steve Mumford
    

- Steve Mumford
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