From: Scott Pappal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Klaus:

I was aware of the article, but I'm sure others will
benefit from your mentioning it - Phil is not real
specific here about different fingering options.
Knowing of der Perfesser's plentiful plethora of
knowledge, I figured he'd have some enlightening info.

Scott

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Scott:

I came lately to the horn. As a general brassist only the trumpet, the
euphonium, the bass tuba, and the contrabass tubas came later to me.

For me it is acceptable for students to ask for specific fingerings. But
anybody claiming even basic proficiency on any brass instrument NEVER should
ask about fingerings or slide positions. Everybody should develop his/hers
own fingering strategy. I even will allow for fingering tactics  in special
situations. I am considered a walking encyclopedia on fingerings and
positions, but I never understood, why my knowledge was not a general
knowledge.

Better than any fingering table is a profound understanding of the overtone
system of brasses. 

Hornwise I was extremely lucky with my first horn, a 5 valve Bb Hoyer. 1st
finger  concert C (written 1st line G) is perfectly in tune. And so is 3rd
finger concert G  ( written D).

I love this horn, but when I got the chance to get a Conn 28D in a sale
situation, where a friend and I combined our acquisition talents and made
the seller eat the VAT, then I went infidel (my friend carried away two
trombones, which I had selected for him).

The Bb side of the 28D is a disaster intonationwise and it sounds like a
euphonium. That's all right with me, just not in a horn.

So I developed  a strategy about a very fixed shift point, as the 28D Bb
side was perfect in intonation from the 9th partial and up:

F horn up to written 4th line D.

>From there on D# on the Bb side fingered 2+3. The first open note on the Bb
side being G on top of the staff.

Hans Pizka (in my interpretation) advocates using the Bb or F sides
depending on the optimal sound on any given note. I am not clever enough to
manage that approach, so I stick with my fixed shift point.

Phil Myer's approach is not that mysterious at all:

The #2) paragraph at

<http://www.osmun.com/reference/Myers-Schmid/Myers3.html>

is pretty specific, but of course you have to spell out the fingerings
yourself.

Klaus

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