Hi all, as a regular mapper I can really appreciate the validation function. I am sometimes doing the validation, but without this function it is really hard to do it: I have no idea which areas were already checked by the others or even by me, because sometimes I am forgetting exactly which squares I already checked.
Yeah, the functionality is not widely used (even trough a lot of people is watching just for the number of green squares and they are forgetting to count the squares which were unvalidated). I can remember when the action covering typhoon Haiyan started I wasn't sure if I am enough experienced to do validation. After short conversation on IRC where the guys encouraged me I did so and found out it isn't that hard. Maybe there can be changed the formulation of who can do the validation (because even now I don't feel like "an experienced mapper") and encourage the people to do so (with some explanation and possible link to the wiki). I strongly agree with Kate's opinion on not removing once implemented functionality. Maybe it can be just optional choice for the one who is creating the job if he/she wants to have this functionality on/off. What I really like is the idea of invalidating once validated squares. Maybe I can even appreciate possibility to distinguish my own squares from the others ones – I am not using the random validation button but I am mostly choosing it by myself. Therefore little bit different color of the square or some nearly invisible bordering will be great. Best xkomczax ______________________________________________________________ > Od: Kate Chapman <[email protected]> > Komu: Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]> > Datum: 04.02.2014 17:08 > Předmět: Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch > > CC: "HOT Openstreetmap" <[email protected]> >Hi All, > >On the other side of "for validation" it is a well liked feature for >some of our more traditional partners. (Including those that >originally funded v2 of the tasking manager) > >It would be nice not to take features away from the 1st version. I >would suggest we look at ways to encourage validation. I think one way >for example would be to let people validate more than one square at a >time. > >Thanks, > >-Kate > >On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hey Harry! >> >> You read my mind. >> Let's try without validation. >> >> I'm pretty sure that the validation feature can be re-added in a near >> future. We just need to find a way to have something easy to understand for >> the end user. And I am convinced that if it's simple for the end-user it >> will not require to much effort to implement. >> For the most motivated of us, I think that UI mockups are a neat way to >> brainstorm and share ideas. >> >> Pierre >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Harry Wood <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Seems people aren't sure about the idea of removing the validation step, >>> but I think it's good idea. I'm sure Pierre is suggesting this change having >>> looked quite carefully at the way people are using the task manager system. >>> >>> The idea of validation was to allow pro-mappers to coordinate the process >>> of double-checking over the area of a whole job, without too much >>> duplication of that double-checking effort, but how many whole jobs has this >>> happened on? It's easy to see the validation step has not been adopted much. >>> Either we don't have many pro-mappers with confidence to validate, or >>> they're not that interested in doing validation (perhaps because we have a >>> steady flow of new jobs work on) >>> >>> And the thing which is always easy to overlook, the feature comes at a >>> cost. It makes the system that little bit more complex to understand. >>> >>> I like the idea of trying without validation. A compromise might be to >>> have it as some sort of hidden feature, but then that's effort to develop >>> something which few users see. >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]> >>> To: HOT Openstreetmap <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 18:46 >>> Subject: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> It's been a while now that I've started working on a "workflow" branch >>> (more than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to improve >>> the user experience by simplifying the interface a bit. >>> >>> This branch is the one used for the instance working at >>> http://tasks2.hotosm.org. >>> >>> I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge >>> the work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will also >>> eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to >>> retrieve the data as well. >>> >>> For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface modification, >>> the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only mode. >>> This allow users to share a link to the task they are working on for >>> example. >>> I also got rid of the "validation" process because it has been the source >>> of problems recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it. >>> People still can invalidate tasks though. >>> >>> If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week. >>> >>> This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me >>> how much work is left to get v1 functionnalities in v2. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Pierre >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> | Pierre GIRAUD >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> | Pierre GIRAUD >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >_______________________________________________ >HOT mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
