I love this idea. As a relatively new mapper, but someone who has worked with GIS I would like more feedback on my mapping and validating efforts.
Kathy Volunteer 'latte_oz' for HOT mapping Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Aug 2014, at 9:18 am, [email protected] wrote: > > Send HOT mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of HOT digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Validating & TM2 - a send message button? (Sander Deryckere) > 2. Re: Validating & TM2 - a send message button? (Blake Girardot) > 3. Re: Validating & TM2 - a send message button? (Claire Halleux) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:01:58 +0200 > From: Sander Deryckere <[email protected]> > To: Clifford Snow <[email protected]> > Cc: hot <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button? > Message-ID: > <cabuouo-z1ujvhown3fxgdsnm6a_-1prury3euhoteyrshxa...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I don't really like getting notified for every validated square. But I > would like some interface where I can query certain stuff. > > * Query the tiles I worked on > * Query the tiles I commented on > * Query the tiles I set to "Done" > * Query the tiles I (in)validated > > And then also some filters I could apply, like I could only see the > validated tiles I marked as "Done" to see those comments. I could see how > many of my tiles were (in)validated, to see how good I'm doing, ... > > > > > 2014-08-29 19:58 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow <[email protected]>: > >> I think getting a message about editing errors is a valid quality process. >> I suppose that you could allow the editor to opt out, or even opt in to >> messages as well as confirmation that the edit was validated. >> >> Clifford >>> On Aug 29, 2014 9:47 AM, "Nick Allen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was recently involved in teaching a large group of new mappers, and >>> close to the end of the session I repeated to them how to find the squares >>> they have mapped, click on them, and see the comments that the validator >>> had left. At the end of the session I was approached by representatives of >>> both the British Red Cross & Medecins Sans Frontier who each commented that >>> it seemed like a long process, and couldn't it be automated so that a >>> message is automatically sent to the mapper concerned. At the time, I >>> replied that the many hundreds of very good mappers would not want a >>> pestering email every time one of their hundreds of squares was validated. >>> >>> However, on further reflection I am having second thoughts, but don't >>> know if; >>> >>> a/. there is something already in the pipeline, & >>> b/. what other HOTties have in the way of ideas about this. >>> >>> I should explain that I see validation as both a quality control feature, >>> and a training aid. Rather than invalidate, I will frequently validate a >>> square if it only involves work I can complete in a few minutes, and I will >>> leave a message in the square something like 'Click on this link to see >>> screenshots showing the before & after: >>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0 >>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present - >>> screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc......' >>> In this case it would obviously be good if there was an option within the >>> Tasking manager that allowed me to send this as a message to the mapper >>> concerned rather than leave it to chance as to whether it is ever seen. If >>> this feature was implemented I would suggest that it was a tick box that >>> the validator would have to select with the text similar to 'Tick this box >>> if you require your comments to be sent as part of a message to the mapper >>> concerned'. >>> >>> The ticking of the box & then confirming with the validate button would >>> cause a message (email or OSM messaging system) with a preformed text such >>> as >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Title=HOT Validators feedback, square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >>> >>> Hi & thanks for mapping for the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team, >>> >>> A validator has recently validated square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ which you >>> marked as complete on @@date@@ & has asked that the following comments >>> are passed on to you; >>> >>> *Click on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after: >>> **https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0 >>> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0>** >>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present - >>> screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc......* >>> >>> Please take these comments in the positive way they were intended. The >>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team would like to see you map many more squares >>> & the comments are only intended to keep the mapping standards high. >>> >>> Keep up the good work, and thanks again for mapping for HOT. >>> >>> This is an automated message. >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> >>> There was a genuine interest from members of BRC & MSF when asking me >>> about this, and there was an offer to help with the coding as well. >>> Personally something like this would save me a lot of time - I'm currently >>> trying to validate the work of about 60 new mappers and anything which >>> speeds up the process would really help. >>> >>> I'd welcome some discussion on this. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> Volunteer 'Tallguy' for >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team >>> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy >>> >>> Treasurer, website & Bonus Ball admin for >>> http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ ([email protected]) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20140829/7907ec70/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:10:41 -0400 > From: Blake Girardot <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > I just want to make sure I understand this: > > We are just talking about getting an email for squares that we > personally have marked as "completed" when it gets validated or > invalidated, not for every square that gets validated. > > Or, as an alternative: > > Every square that we have personally marked as completed AND that we > have checked a box for that says something like: Notify me of comments > on Validation/Invalidation. > > > I was also further talking about being able to optionally "subscribe" to > comments on any task square, by checking a box. > > Cheers, > Blake > > >> On 8/29/2014 12:47 PM, Nick Allen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was recently involved in teaching a large group of new mappers, and >> close to the end of the session I repeated to them how to find the >> squares they have mapped, click on them, and see the comments that the >> validator had left. At the end of the session I was approached by >> representatives of both the British Red Cross & Medecins Sans Frontier >> who each commented that it seemed like a long process, and couldn't it >> be automated so that a message is automatically sent to the mapper >> concerned. At the time, I replied that the many hundreds of very good >> mappers would not want a pestering email every time one of their >> hundreds of squares was validated. >> >> However, on further reflection I am having second thoughts, but don't >> know if; >> >> a/. there is something already in the pipeline, & >> b/. what other HOTties have in the way of ideas about this. >> >> I should explain that I see validation as both a quality control >> feature, and a training aid. Rather than invalidate, I will frequently >> validate a square if it only involves work I can complete in a few >> minutes, and I will leave a message in the square something like 'Click >> on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after: >> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0 >> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present >> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. >> etc......' In this case it would obviously be good if there was an >> option within the Tasking manager that allowed me to send this as a >> message to the mapper concerned rather than leave it to chance as to >> whether it is ever seen. If this feature was implemented I would suggest >> that it was a tick box that the validator would have to select with the >> text similar to 'Tick this box if you require your comments to be sent >> as part of a message to the mapper concerned'. >> >> The ticking of the box & then confirming with the validate button would >> cause a message (email or OSM messaging system) with a preformed text >> such as >> _________________________________________________________ >> >> Title=HOT Validators feedback, square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >> >> Hi & thanks for mapping for the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team, >> >> A validator has recently validated square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ which you >> marked as complete on @@date@@ & has asked that the following comments >> are passed on to you; >> >> /Click on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after: >> //https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0// >> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present >> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc....../ >> >> Please take these comments in the positive way they were intended. The >> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team would like to see you map many more >> squares & the comments are only intended to keep the mapping standards high. >> >> Keep up the good work, and thanks again for mapping for HOT. >> >> This is an automated message. >> _________________________________________________________ >> >> There was a genuine interest from members of BRC & MSF when asking me >> about this, and there was an offer to help with the coding as well. >> Personally something like this would save me a lot of time - I'm >> currently trying to validate the work of about 60 new mappers and >> anything which speeds up the process would really help. >> >> I'd welcome some discussion on this. >> >> -- >> >> Nick >> >> Volunteer 'Tallguy' for >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy >> >> Treasurer, website & Bonus Ball admin for >> http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ ([email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 01:18:33 +0200 > From: Claire Halleux <[email protected]> > To: Blake Girardot <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button? > Message-ID: > <CACfGQQb=H7o_6VQu4Xk565PT=VPFaKq940Bh5=s1sycmszx...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > +1 for the "Notify me of comments" checkbox suggestion. > > >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Blake Girardot <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I just want to make sure I understand this: >> >> We are just talking about getting an email for squares that we personally >> have marked as "completed" when it gets validated or invalidated, not for >> every square that gets validated. >> >> Or, as an alternative: >> >> Every square that we have personally marked as completed AND that we have >> checked a box for that says something like: Notify me of comments on >> Validation/Invalidation. >> >> >> I was also further talking about being able to optionally "subscribe" to >> comments on any task square, by checking a box. >> >> Cheers, >> Blake >> >> >> >>> On 8/29/2014 12:47 PM, Nick Allen wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was recently involved in teaching a large group of new mappers, and >>> close to the end of the session I repeated to them how to find the >>> squares they have mapped, click on them, and see the comments that the >>> validator had left. At the end of the session I was approached by >>> representatives of both the British Red Cross & Medecins Sans Frontier >>> who each commented that it seemed like a long process, and couldn't it >>> be automated so that a message is automatically sent to the mapper >>> concerned. At the time, I replied that the many hundreds of very good >>> mappers would not want a pestering email every time one of their >>> hundreds of squares was validated. >>> >>> However, on further reflection I am having second thoughts, but don't >>> know if; >>> >>> a/. there is something already in the pipeline, & >>> b/. what other HOTties have in the way of ideas about this. >>> >>> I should explain that I see validation as both a quality control >>> feature, and a training aid. Rather than invalidate, I will frequently >>> validate a square if it only involves work I can complete in a few >>> minutes, and I will leave a message in the square something like 'Click >>> on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after: >>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0 >>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present >>> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. >>> etc......' In this case it would obviously be good if there was an >>> option within the Tasking manager that allowed me to send this as a >>> message to the mapper concerned rather than leave it to chance as to >>> whether it is ever seen. If this feature was implemented I would suggest >>> that it was a tick box that the validator would have to select with the >>> text similar to 'Tick this box if you require your comments to be sent >>> as part of a message to the mapper concerned'. >>> >>> The ticking of the box & then confirming with the validate button would >>> cause a message (email or OSM messaging system) with a preformed text >>> such as >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Title=HOT Validators feedback, square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >>> >>> Hi & thanks for mapping for the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team, >>> >>> A validator has recently validated square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ which you >>> marked as complete on @@date@@ & has asked that the following comments >>> are passed on to you; >>> >>> /Click on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after: >>> //https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z- >>> ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0// >>> >>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present >>> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc....../ >>> >>> >>> Please take these comments in the positive way they were intended. The >>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team would like to see you map many more >>> squares & the comments are only intended to keep the mapping standards >>> high. >>> >>> Keep up the good work, and thanks again for mapping for HOT. >>> >>> This is an automated message. >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> >>> There was a genuine interest from members of BRC & MSF when asking me >>> about this, and there was an offer to help with the coding as well. >>> Personally something like this would save me a lot of time - I'm >>> currently trying to validate the work of about 60 new mappers and >>> anything which speeds up the process would really help. >>> >>> I'd welcome some discussion on this. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> Volunteer 'Tallguy' for >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team >>> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy >>> >>> Treasurer, website & Bonus Ball admin for >>> http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ ([email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > -- > Claire Halleux > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20140830/fcb22ba6/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > ------------------------------ > > End of HOT Digest, Vol 54, Issue 55 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
