Pierre,
I also think the feedback on validation
would be very worthwhile to me. If you are
worried that people will get irritated with the
feedback, then give them the option of turning the feedback of and on.
We need more than another email list for
discussion. We need real feedback.
Charlotte Wolter
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 18:41:00 +0100
From: Pierre Béland <[email protected]>
To: Blake Girardot <[email protected]>,
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Subject: Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button?
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Sending a message for every task validated risk
to irritate people. Instead, let's bring a
social plus learning function in this CrowdSourcing Task Manager.
The best is to create a place of discussion (IRC
like) directly related to the task Manager. The
Validation comments could also be listed in this
IRC. On the of the page, their could be a count
of how many contributors currently selected a task.
The mappers, validators and coordinators would
then have a place of discussion. This would play
some social gathering function easily accessible
plus help support for beginners.
Pierre
De : Blake Girardot <[email protected]>
À : "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Envoyé le : Vendredi 29 août 2014 13h03
Objet : Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button?
I wholeheartedly agree that an automated message that sends the comments
when a task is validated or invalidated would be great.
I really like feedback on the mapping I do.
Sort of related, I'd like to be able to subscribe to comments on a task
so I get an email every time someone comments on a task I have
subscribed to (probably because I have worked on it).
I am a new mapper so I have not seen a lot of tasks and do not know how
often comments on tasks are used, but the tasks I work on, I try to
comment as often and helpfully as I can.
Thank you for bringing up this idea.
Regards,
Blake Girardot
On 8/29/2014 12:47 PM, Nick Allen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was recently involved in teaching a large group of new mappers, and
> close to the end of the session I repeated to them how to find the
> squares they have mapped, click on them, and see the comments that the
> validator had left. At the end of the session I was approached by
> representatives of both the British Red Cross & Medecins Sans Frontier
> who each commented that it seemed like a long process, and couldn't it
> be automated so that a message is automatically sent to the mapper
> concerned. At the time, I replied that the many hundreds of very good
> mappers would not want a pestering email every time one of their
> hundreds of squares was validated.
>
> However, on further reflection I am having second thoughts, but don't
> know if;
>
> a/. there is something already in the pipeline, &
> b/. what other HOTties have in the way of ideas about this.
>
> I should explain that I see validation as both a quality control
> feature, and a training aid. Rather than invalidate, I will frequently
> validate a square if it only involves work I can complete in a few
> minutes, and I will leave a message in the square something like 'Click
> on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after:
>
<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0
> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present
> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut.
> etc......' In this case it would obviously be good if there was an
> option within the Tasking manager that allowed me to send this as a
> message to the mapper concerned rather than leave it to chance as to
> whether it is ever seen. If this feature was implemented I would suggest
> that it was a tick box that the validator would have to select with the
> text similar to 'Tick this box if you require your comments to be sent
> as part of a message to the mapper concerned'.
>
> The ticking of the box & then confirming with the validate button would
> cause a message (email or OSM messaging system) with a preformed text
> such as
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Title=HOT Validators feedback, square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>
> Hi & thanks for mapping for the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team,
>
> A validator has recently validated square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ which you
> marked as complete on @@date@@ & has asked that the following comments
> are passed on to you;
>
> /Click on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after:
>
//<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0//>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0//
> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present
> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc....../
>
> Please take these comments in the positive way they were intended. The
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team would like to see you map many more
> squares & the comments are only intended to
keep the mapping standards high.
>
> Keep up the good work, and thanks again for mapping for HOT.
>
> This is an automated message.
> _________________________________________________________
>
> There was a genuine interest from members of BRC & MSF when asking me
> about this, and there was an offer to help with the coding as well.
> Personally something like this would save me a lot of time - I'm
> currently trying to validate the work of about 60 new mappers and
> anything which speeds up the process would really help.
>
> I'd welcome some discussion on this.
>
> --
>
> Nick
>
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