HI Maning, I did http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/15 but did not figure out the paths in the NW to reach the dwellings there, I guess it must be under the vegetation cover?
Severin On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:15 AM, maning sambale <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear john, > > Thank you very much for working on this job. For an example of what I > think is complete, see my work on this task: > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/80 > > I agree that this is a very difficult task and, as you suggested, this > task might be best suited to focus just on roads and residential > areas. I will talk to ARMM-Heart this week to refine what data they > need and will revise the > instructions accordingly. You are definitely correct that this task > is best suited for local PH-based mappers and, upon looking at the > changeset comment [0], majority of the mappers were PH based or at > least mapping the PH (this includes a few of the people we trained > when I went there to assist the IDP mapping request last week). > > I foresee this as longer term response (not very urgent, but equally > important). I will probably be back (as a volunteer) on the field to > help the local responders but as I've said previously, security is a > concern so we map as much as we can remotely and integrate ground > validation to other humanitarian work. Thanks again and your > contribution is very much appreciated. > > > [0] > http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810 > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:35 PM, john whelan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Given the resources available I think it would be better to reduce the > scope > > and first map major roads and say settlements of more than five houses. > If > > I look at what has been mapped a lot of individual buildings have been > > mapped which is good but in the same time far more buildings could have > been > > mapped in settlements. > > > > Currently I'm mapping another two projects both at 90+%, one one I'm > > practically the only mapper left and and the other a high priority one > the > > number of active mappers completing tiles has dropped off considerably > > recently. > > > > So basically the concern if you like is this project is quite difficult > to > > map all the attributes asked for, a sample tile would be useful. To be > > honest unless it says on the roof in large friendly letters what it is it > > could be a barn, warehouse, school, public building or place of > worship. So > > you can map a tile for roads, settlements and large buildings that look > > interesting but you can't really tick the box to say its done and > sometimes > > box ticking helps the motivation. The Philippines might be the place to > > look for mappers who are motivated and know something about the area. > > > > Cheerio John > > > > On 4 April 2015 at 10:31, Pierre Béland <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi John > >> > >> Yes, this is important to zoom in enough. This is a tropical country and > >> there is dense vegetation that sometimes partly obscure the buildings. > In > >> comparizon, it is easier then to map for the Vanuatu islands where the > >> vegetation is ever more dense. > >> > >> For these emergencies, the humanitarian organizations need a minimum of > >> information for their logistic of operation. For this task, > instructions > >> are to trace outbound of the residential areas and the major buildings > plus > >> the highways. > >> > >> Looking at a task that you validated previously, I see that the Bing > >> imagery is clear enough to trace the highways and the outline around the > >> residential areas. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/55 > >> > >> Humanitarians plan to use an offline OSMand map to navigate. Maning is > in > >> the field interfacing with these organizations. He also added to the > >> instruction panel links to Mapillary video. This help us to understand > the > >> context. > >> > >> > >> Pierre > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> De : john whelan <[email protected]> > >> À : maning sambale <[email protected]> > >> Cc : HOT <[email protected]> > >> Envoyé le : Samedi 4 avril 2015 9h24 > >> Objet : Re: [HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines > >> > >> I've had a quick look, the houses are often low density and there are > lots > >> of them which makes mapping a cluster awkward, it also means that > marking a > >> tile done is difficult if any buildings are not mapped. The tracks / > roads > >> can be difficult to pick out which again makes marking the tile done not > >> easy. Some clusters of housing don't appear to have any roads leading > up to > >> them but there is a lot of water around so I assume that is the method > of > >> transport. Anyway I've quickly marked a few large landuse=residential > on a > >> few tiles so I hope that is of some use. Realistically you need a lot > more > >> mappers from somewhere, much of the imagery is good but you need to > zoom in. > >> Can you tap the locals in some way? Especially for the requirement > about > >> picking out places of worships, schools and public buildings and these > need > >> to be done before the tile can be marked done if it is a requirement.; > >> > >> What might help is getting one tile mapped as an example of how you'd > like > >> the others mapped. > >> > >> Cheerio John > >> > >> > >> > >> On 31 March 2015 at 06:59, maning sambale <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Dear everyone, > >> > >> As always, thank you to the 10 contributors [0] who are helping with > this > >> task. > >> I just uploaded some mapillary photos to help guide mappers what some > >> of the features look like on the ground. > >> Links are in the Instruction tab of the task [1]. > >> > >> We are hoping the holy week ceasefire will decrease the military > >> offensive [2] but IDP situation on the ground is not any way better. > >> Once again this is not an urgent task nor a formal activation, but we > >> appreciate any help you can extend. > >> > >> [0] > >> > http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810 > >> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969 > >> [2] http://www.manilatimes.net/holy-week-ceasefire/173028/ > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM, maning sambale > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Dear HOTties, > >> > > >> > (cc OSM-PH) > >> > > >> > This is not an urgent task, but we are requesting any assistance you > can > >> > extend. > >> > There is an ongoing military operation in Maguindanao which affected > >> > 125K IDPs > >> > [0 and 1]. I am in Cotabato right now assisting the ARMM-HEART (the > >> > regional humanitarian agency) in using OSM in coordinating the > >> > on-going response. > >> > > >> > Fieldwork is very challenging due to physical and security conditions. > >> > We created a task to improve the baseamap. The task is here: > >> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969 > >> > > >> > Advance thanks! > >> > > >> > [0] > >> > > http://reliefweb.int/map/philippines/philippines-displacement-overview-central-mindanao-3-mar-2015 > >> > [1] > >> > > http://data.ex2.georepublic.net:8080/geofuse/showtheme?layer=csvdata.mb_FA7FECF8C37F1AAD7A504FAA0876B6D0_2348 > >> > -- > >> > cheers, > >> > maning > >> > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >> > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> cheers, > >> maning > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> HOT mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> HOT mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > ------------------------------------------------------ > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >
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