I think https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1657 sort of started in the right direction - the JOSM style, super complicated hard to understand validation messages aren't what you want, but the more the editor can suggest to me *small improvements I want to make *the better. If its real time or on new contributions, well; fantastic - discourages bad data getting in. That might not be feasible though.
You've previously said things like: "I think I might like it a little better if iD did very little validation and had an API integration with a dedicated validator like keepright." - that's probably a really feasible incremental step. Imagine the workflow: - New-ish user opens a tile in the tasking manager. - A flag to ID in the URL asks it to render the osmose error feed for that bounding box - New-ish user sees a few buildings, roads, etc. One of them has a red marker or outline on it. - User clicks on it, not having see it before - a message suggests that this is tagged with landuse and is a building. - *Oops* thinks the user, *I thought about tagging like this, I guess that's not right.* If we're lucky; *I wonder if I can fix it.* Outcomes: user learns from the 'mistakes' of others, but it's still very much suggestion based - more about gentle encouragement than having someone down the track invalidate your work with a terse message you don't understand. That's... possibly a bit specific and maybe should be shifted into github somewhere to be kicked around further; but yeah... On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Bryan Housel <[email protected]> wrote: > To your second point: Are there specific things that I can prioritize in > iD to make it more suitable for new users performing HOT tasks? For > example, I’ve made some progress on implementing a 2-click building drawing > mode and hope to have that in the next iD release. And presets are > something that are very easy for us change too. > > Would be happy to start a conversation about this.. > > Thanks, Bryan > > > > > On May 28, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Dan S <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Rekth, > > > > That's a great question. My perspective, as an occasional HOT > facilitator: > > > > The learning curve for people getting into HOT has two "steep bits". > > The SECOND steep bit is advanced users learning how to use josm, > > learning how to validate etc. I've actually been surprised that this > > second steep bit doesn't seem too off-putting for people. The FIRST > > steep bit is when they're still quite new and learning how to use the > > TM, how to read aerial imagery, how to trace ways, etc. It's that > > first bit where the Tasking Manager could help facilitate their > > experience (especially since there are many complexities outside of > > the Tasking Manager), and where the TM could make sure that they have > > a positive, fluid experience that they feel good about repeating. So > > personally, I'd certainly say focus on the first-time or second-time > > visitors. > > > > Best > > Dan > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >
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