Susan,
I also received some invalidations + comments for task that I completed with a
message saying - This duplicates with a new task, more recent imagery. I
politely answered to read the comments.
But this shows that we need to revise our workflows with the Task Manager and
avoid such ambiguities.
As we discussed before, we need to better control who can validate.
Invalidations by new contributors should be also restricted. This could be
monitored / approved by the validators.
We could also plan at the beginning of major activations to have more basic
tasks to offer to the new contributors. For example, it could be a buildings
only task with good imagery. This way, they would have less instructions, tags
and imagery problems to digest for their first contribution.
regard
Pierre
De : Suzan Reed <[email protected]>
À : [email protected]
Cc : hot OpenStreetMap Team) <[email protected]>
Envoyé le : Vendredi 5 juin 2015 18h21
Objet : Re: [HOT] Level of user experience to focus on
A reminder to be kind and to completely describe what the validator found with
more words would be helpful. I've had people send me terse, rude, and
disheartening comments. Would they talk that way to me in person? I doubt it.
Having a wiki for validators would be helpful with examples of complete
sentence descriptions and so on.
Also, establishing some bar of expertise a validator has to meet? So many tiles
completed, or number of edits? I've had people with little or no experience
validating my work, and they are far off target having not read the
instructions. (Saying "no buildings tagged", when the Instructions clearly
state no buildings are to be mapped.)
Suzan
On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:44 AM, Blake Girardot wrote:
On 5/29/2015 9:37 AM, Suzan Reed wrote:
Routing newbies to tasks where they are reviewed by mentors? I would have liked
that.
This is an interesting idea.
While every project needs to have its task squares reviewed and validated (at
least once), the idea of creating some projects that new contributors to HOT
mapping are directed to and special attention is placed on reviewing those
completed task squares and providing feedback as soon as absolutely possible
seems like a good compromise between the ideal world (lots of training and
mentoring) and what we can realistically do, especially when welcoming
thousands of new mappers to HOT/OSM during a major event.
It would also help give focus to experienced mappers who are doing validation
and feedback knowing that certain projects are where they should always look to
first to do validations.
I think we kind of, sort of do this now, but making it more explicit would be a
big improvement I think. It is at least worth a good solid try at some point.
cheers,
Blake
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