> We could also plan at the beginning of major activations to have more basic tasks to offer to the new contributors. For example, it could be a buildings only task with good imagery. This way, they would have less instructions, tags and imagery problems to digest for their first contribution.
We have suitable projects such as http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/687, http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/688, http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690, available but how do new mappers find them? If they look at sorted by creation date they see tasks such as http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1079 which is now mapped even though it was created quite recently. Cheerio John On 5 June 2015 at 18:41, Pierre Béland <[email protected]> wrote: > Susan, > > I also received some invalidations + comments for task that I completed > with a message saying - This duplicates with a new task, more recent > imagery. I politely answered to read the comments. > > But this shows that we need to revise our workflows with the Task Manager > and avoid such ambiguities. > > As we discussed before, we need to better control who can validate. > Invalidations by new contributors should be also restricted. This could be > monitored / approved by the validators. > > We could also plan at the beginning of major activations to have more > basic tasks to offer to the new contributors. For example, it could be a > buildings only task with good imagery. This way, they would have less > instructions, tags and imagery problems to digest for their first > contribution. > > regard > > Pierre > > ------------------------------ > *De :* Suzan Reed <[email protected]> > *À :* [email protected] > *Cc :* hot OpenStreetMap Team) <[email protected]> > *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 5 juin 2015 18h21 > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Level of user experience to focus on > > A reminder to be kind and to completely describe what the validator found > with more words would be helpful. I've had people send me terse, rude, and > disheartening comments. Would they talk that way to me in person? I doubt > it. > > Having a wiki for validators would be helpful with examples of complete > sentence descriptions and so on. > > Also, establishing some bar of expertise a validator has to meet? So many > tiles completed, or number of edits? I've had people with little or no > experience validating my work, and they are far off target having not read > the instructions. (Saying "no buildings tagged", when the Instructions > clearly state no buildings are to be mapped.) > > Suzan > > > > > On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:44 AM, Blake Girardot wrote: > On 5/29/2015 9:37 AM, Suzan Reed wrote: > Routing newbies to tasks where they are reviewed by mentors? I would have > liked that. > > This is an interesting idea. > > While every project needs to have its task squares reviewed and validated > (at least once), the idea of creating some projects that new contributors > to HOT mapping are directed to and special attention is placed on reviewing > those completed task squares and providing feedback as soon as absolutely > possible seems like a good compromise between the ideal world (lots of > training and mentoring) and what we can realistically do, especially when > welcoming thousands of new mappers to HOT/OSM during a major event. > > It would also help give focus to experienced mappers who are doing > validation and feedback knowing that certain projects are where they should > always look to first to do validations. > > I think we kind of, sort of do this now, but making it more explicit would > be a big improvement I think. It is at least worth a good solid try at some > point. > > cheers, > Blake > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >
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