I agree with John, this type of data needs to be collected from a trusted source, reliable, consistent & complete (nation wide coverage).
The encryption with public & private key might be a bit too much, but as long as the data can be used in an offline environment via a mobile application. *~~~~~~* *Denis Carriere* *GIS Software & Systems Specialist* *Twitter: @DenisCarriere <https://twitter.com/DenisCarriere/>* *OSM: DenisCarriere <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/DenisCarriere>* GitHub: DenisCarriere <https://github.com/DenisCarriere> Email: [email protected] On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:01 AM, john whelan <[email protected]> wrote: > I think there is a slight problem in that for operational use you need a > trusted source and HOT as it stands with new mappers using iD isn't really > that. > > I would suggest that one way to make it a little more bullet proof would > be to include a tag, website perhaps that pointed to a read only web site > under someone's control that confirmed the location and attributes. > > There are other methods encryption would be one, two key public and > private. The site would get a benediction and a encrypted key with > location and attributes would be added that way you wouldn't need an > internet connection. > > There are actually a number of places where this would be of value in OSM > so if we can come up with a process it could be applied a little more > generally. > > Cheerio John > > On 7 November 2016 at 10:29, Denis Carriere <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> During the Nepal earthquake relief effort, mapping HLZs (Helicopter >> Landing Zones) did not seem very coordinated, many factors need to be taken >> into consideration to properly define a HLZ. I can confirm that very little >> of the OpenStreetMap HLZ data was not used for any mission planning by any >> NGO, Government or UN aid during my time in Nepal. >> >> However, it would be great to open this type of discussion with >> organizations that actively fly helicopters & planes within these affected >> areas. Most of these organizations already have a their own HLZ data with >> tons of precise attributes associated with the particular HLZ & terrain >> data. >> >> Before any mapping happens, we should properly define a HLZ OSM Wiki page >> to clearly define how to map an HLZ. >> >> https://gist.github.com/aaronpdennis/b4ce2012749bb025b886 (Humanitarian >> purposed tags) >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Helicopter_landing_zone (Not defined) >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency:helipad (Not defined) >> >> *@MAF & @MountainChild @KLL: *It would be great to have your input on >> this topic. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> *~~~~~~* >> *Denis Carriere* >> *GIS Software & Systems Specialist* >> >> *Twitter: @DenisCarriere <https://twitter.com/DenisCarriere/>* >> *OSM: DenisCarriere <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/DenisCarriere>* >> GitHub: DenisCarriere <https://github.com/DenisCarriere> >> Email: [email protected] >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Keith, >>> >>> I worked a lot on this issue during the Nepal 2015 response. >>> >>> What you propose sounds great. We had a lot of difficulty trying to do >>> this via the tasking manager for several reasons. >>> >>> I would love to speak with you more about it, maybe we could chat via >>> skype. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Blake >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Blake Girardot >>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team >>> President, HOT Board of Directors >>> skype: jblakegirardot >>> HOT Core Team Contact: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Keith Darby <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > All: >>> > >>> > I am a retired Marine Corps Helicopter Pilot, and a current Masters >>> Candidate in GIS Technologies at USC. >>> > >>> > I am working on my thesis, which is based on the premise that >>> crowd-sourced geospatial information, if properly structured, could aid >>> aircrews in surveying potential HLZs for disaster response. >>> > >>> > The work flow would be as follows: >>> > >>> > (1) Helicopter planners and aircrews would select potential HLZs in a >>> disaster-affected region, using whatever mission planning GISystem at their >>> disposal (normally baed on remote sensing data) >>> > >>> > (2) Those proposed HLZs would be uploaded to OSM. >>> > >>> > (3) Volunteers could select one of those HLZs and conduct a >>> ground-truth survey, following a script (that I would develop). >>> > >>> > (4) Those surveys would be uploaded to OSM and validated. >>> > >>> > (5) the Helicopter mission planners and aircrews could use those >>> surveys to select the best zones for disaster relief operations. >>> > >>> > I am looking at using the towns of Honokaa and Waimea on the northern >>> end of the Big Island of Hawaii as my study area, as I live close by, and I >>> have the local Community Emergency Response Team (volunteers) willing to >>> support. >>> > >>> > Who do I need to talk to about getting HOT permission to conduct a >>> limited objective study in this area? >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > >>> > Keith Darby >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > HOT mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >
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