Can this be packaged up in a format that cynical OSM mappers can absorb? I'm thinking not glossy with smiling faces but a note in their OSM diary that we can draw to the attention of OSMWEEKLY. Possibly through a post on the osmtalk titled something like "local mapping after HOT"?
Compose it in a word processor first. ie get the local mapper to tell the tale of how working with HOT / MSF led to other things. This I think is worth it's weight in gold and many brownie points. Thanks John On 12 Dec 2017 7:06 pm, "Pete Masters" <[email protected]> wrote: > Apologies for going back to an earlier point, but i think yes there are > examples. The OSM Bangladesh crew, while not without original, local > catalysts, had a resurgence after a HOT project with MSF. While the project > was very successful (and has had impact in terms of medical care in > deprived areas of Dhaka), the really remarkable thing has been what has > happened since, on a local and international scale. The passion of those > individuals, some of whom had their first OSM experiences through HOT has > led to collaborations with local communities, NGOs, businesses (who now > employ OSM mappers), and conversations with local and national government > departments. If anyone can talk to this question it is them. > > Plus, on the subject of WAMM, OSM data is now being used in a Ministry of > Health hospital in Sierra Leone to improve surveillance and public health > systems in the area. This is a local, institutional use case.... I have no > idea if any of those mappers have gone on to enrich the map in other ways > from there, but this is a big deal for local health infrastructure. > > Do we ask enough and learn enough from those involved in these examples? > Probably not. But, good collaborations are happening. And, I think the > microgrants programme is great. There will be some successes and, > inevitably, some failures in the long term and we should not be complacent > that they are a golden bullet, but I think overall this is a good HOT > initiative.... > > I really appreciate this conversation and, personally, think it is a > discussion that needs to be had... I'm glad it's resurfaced. > > Pete > > Ps. Sorry if the email is a bit rambling (it's late and I'm tired)! > > > On 12 Dec 2017 00:43, "john whelan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I accept what you say Ralph but the motorcycle project is being run by an > conventional European or North American NGO. It's organised mapping. > > >The result will be a dedicated group in each country that will continue > the work, train more local people and expand the mapping community. > > So is there a way to get this message across? Are there examples where > after training they have enriched the map without being directed what to > map? > > We've come a long way with the projects and maperthons simplifying and > standardizing improving the training material, and giving feedback so the > standard of mapping for new mappers is considerably higher than it has been > in the past. > > The other part is are the locals trusting the map enough to use it for > local government type work? > > Cheerio John > > On 11 December 2017 at 19:31, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> John, >> >> I am not sure what you are trying to say, but to help you understand >> “Microgrants” I can explain some of them to you. >> >> >> >> I am helping the WAMM (West African Motorbike Mappers) who are in Sierra >> Leone. The lead for this was Ivan Gayton from Medicins sans Frontieres and >> Rupert Alan (A regular attendee at The London Missing Maps Mapathons). >> >> https://africamotorcyclemapping.org/category/rupert-allan-consultant/ >> >> >> >> They have supplied equipment and are training local people to travel >> around Sierra Leone (at present they are working their way through the >> Eastern Province and they have completed Kailahun District and almost >> completed Kenema District) visiting every town, village, hamlet and >> isolated dwellings taking gps readings to supply coordinates for the names >> of each of these places, with data such as the presence of a water pump, >> local market and health facilities. They download this information onto a >> spreadsheet and I have been checking their work and adding these names and >> data to OSM. This field work is continuing with local people even though >> Rupert has moved on to Uganda https://africamotorcyclemappin >> g.org/2017/11/11/exciting-new-job-motorcycle-mapping-refugee >> -settlements-uganda/ and Ivan is in Tanzania with Rumani Huria. >> >> >> >> Another that I have been involved in is Janet Chapman (also an attendee >> at the London Missing Maps Mapathons) with Crowd2Map in Tanzania where >> she is training the local people to draw the maps themselves and add more >> information and detail with local knowledge. Along with the help of the >> Crowdsource community they have done an amazing job of helping to add to >> the basic infrastructure of Northern Tanzania >> https://crowd2map.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> >> These projects have gained a foothold in very poor areas where technology >> is nowhere near as advanced as you are used to, they have started the >> process and they are quite keen to keep the momentum going. The result will >> be a dedicated group in each country that will continue the work, train >> more local people and expand the mapping community. Even Katmandu Living >> Labs was a small group in the beginning. >> >> >> >> And for your information Rebecca Firth is another one who attended the >> London Missing Maps Mapathons. So Mapathons are a valuable way of finding >> people who are prepared to get more involved and actively improve OSM >> locally and elsewhere and not just about bad mappers. It is well worth the >> effort even though many attendees do not return or even continue mapping. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows 10 >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > >
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