It will be great if we don't open more mailing lists and we try to collaborate and unify efforts in the current lists
Thanks, M On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Mikel Maron <[email protected]> wrote: > The [email protected] mailing list is not subject to any more > restrictions than any other OSMF maintained list. It is not restricted to > HOT members and partners, nor is it subject to HOT governance. > > Here is my response from yesterday clarifying, in case you missed it. > > > Sure, a simple clarification. The OSMF hosted mailing lists fall under > the etiquette and moderation guidelines at http://wiki.openstreetmap. > org/wiki/Etiquette. The HOT Code of Conduct applies to different domains > and set of actors, most especially Voting Members of HOT. > > I don't see value in an additional mailing list myself, but rather > encourage better and more intentional use of the resources we have. > > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron > > > On Friday, December 15, 2017, 6:54:56 AM EST, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Dear all, > > This is actually another interesting topic! > If we move for a more general mailing list on international > development/humanitarian topics (not restricted to the HOT membership > and partners), I would suggest maybe not to use the "humanitarian" word > that is only describing a subset of this scope of activities. > Since development can be confusing with IT development, I would suggest > something like [email protected] > > However creating doesn't always do the trick: we've seen it with the > hot-francophone mailing list that was created to generate more exchanges > between Francophone countries (in particular Africa & Haiti) on > development topics and is not super successful because the communities > we wanted to exchange with are not big fans of mailing lists for > cultural reasons. > > Best > > Martin > > On 15/12/2017 12:42, Milo van der Linden wrote: > > Could we ask the OSMF if we can set up a > > [email protected] mailing list that is not subject of HOT > > restrictions and open to everyone under the same rules and regulations > > of other OSM mailinglists? > > > > 2017-12-14 18:40 GMT+01:00 nicolas chavent > > <[email protected]>: > > > >> Dear all HOT Us Inc members, subscribers of the hot at openstreetmap > >> mailing-list and OSMF members, > >> > >> There's is something weird in Dale Kunce (HOT US Inc President and > >> OSMF member) in this email announcing that the HOT US Inc Code of > >> Conduct https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct [1] will be > >> enforced on the hot at openstreetmap mailing-list (an OpenStreetMap > >> mailing list to discuss uses of OSM in the humanitarian and > >> development sectors [1]) which like other OpenStreetMap thematic > >> mailing lists [2] (software development, tagging etc ...) and other > >> discussions fora (wiki, forum etc) belong to the commons of the > >> OpenStreetMap project and is regulated via the OSMF and the OSM > >> members and is yet not subject to agreed upon and enforced CoC as > >> reminded by the last OSMF election discussions [3]. > >> > >> It would be beneficial for the regulations of the OpenStreetMap > >> commons, that the President of HOT US Inc refrain from enforcing his > >> own organization's conversational policy and procedures (which has > >> never been voted by the HOT US Inc membership) over an OSM mailing > >> list and narrow his focus and actions on the resources of his own > >> organizations (membership mailing list, tools etc) or the > >> conversations of the HOT US Inc membership. > >> It would also be beneficial to assess and look at the moderation of > >> the hot at openstreetmap mailing-list from a non HOT US Inc only > >> perspective, shall we want this list to be the mailing list of > >> anyone OpenStreeMap members (and not yet members) interested into > >> the use of OpenStreetMap diversified and decentralized and not the > >> list of only-one organization of the OpenStreetMap ecosystem active > >> across the humanitarian and development sectors. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Nicolas > >> > >> [1]: http://lists [3].openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >> [2]: http://wiki [4].openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists > >> [3]: https://lists > >> [5].openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2017-December/subject.html > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Dale Kunce <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Earlier today someone on this list made some rude and disparaging > >>> remarks about the iD developers. This is not the first time an > >>> outside supporting group has been attacked by members of this > >>> list. Your words have meaning. Your words can have far greater > >>> impact than you believe. One individual, not elected, can have a > >>> huge negative impact that directly affects HOT's mission. > >>> > >>> One of HOT's biggest fans and supporters has unsubscribed from > >>> this list, rightly so, because of these attacks. The individual > >>> was and is key to helping the OSM community with important > >>> technology tools that we need to map better. > >>> > >>> I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of the > >>> Code of Conduct https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct [1]. It > >>> will be enforced and offenders will be asked to leave our > >>> community if you cannot help us form a positive welcoming > >>> community. The Code of Conduct is not for some special group to > >>> enforce the power of a strong CoC lies with the community to > >>> enforce good positive communication norms. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> sent from my mobile device > >>> > >>> Dale Kunce > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> HOT mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot [2] > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Nicolas Chavent > >> > >> Les Libres Géographes > >> > >> Projet OpenStreetMap (OSM) > >> > >> Projet Espace OSM Francophone (EOF) > >> > >> Projet GeOrchestra > >> > >> Mobile (FR): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20 [6] > >> > >> Mobile (Bénin): +22962 55 85 91 [7] > >> Email: [email protected] > >> Skype: c_nicolas > >> Twitter: nicolas_chavent > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> HOT mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot [2] > > > > -- > > > > [8] > > > > MILO VAN DER LINDEN > > > > web: dogodigi [8] > > tel: +31-6-16598808 > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Membership" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to [email protected]. > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct > > [2] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > [3] http://lists > > [4] http://wiki > > [5] https://lists > > [6] tel:+33%206%2052%2040%2078%2020 > > [7] tel:+229%2062%2055%2085%2091 > > > [8] > http://www.dogodigi.net > > > _______________________________________________ > osmf-talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > osmf-talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk > > -- _______________ Saludos y gracias, Mapanauta
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