Oh wow, I didn't know that there was a way to move interned strings back into the perm gen in Java 7. Thanks for the tip! That'll be incredibly useful for us to validate that it is just indeed the GC causing performance differences between Java 6 and 7.
Thanks, Corbin From: hotspot-gc-use [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Poonam Bajaj Parhar Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 2:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Unexpected Java 6 vs 8 GC performance difference Hello Corbin, The reason for slower young collections in JDK7 is that the interned strings and class statics were moved from PermGen to the Java Heap, and it JDK8 PermGen was completely removed. So since interned strings are now allocated in the Java Heap, they contribute towards the GC collection times. In JDK7, there is a diagnostic option -XX:+JavaObjectsInPerm that can be used to instruct the JVM to allocate the interned strings and class statics back in the PermGen. But unfortunately we don't have such option in JDK8 as there is no PermGen in JDK8. More details here: https://blogs.oracle.com/poonam/entry/longer_young_collections_with_jdk7<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blogs.oracle.com_poonam_entry_longer-5Fyoung-5Fcollections-5Fwith-5Fjdk7&d=CwMF-g&c=NRtzTzKNaCCmhN_9N2YJR-XrNU1huIgYP99yDsEzaJo&r=boyF4rmil1TfZ0CMFcwpJ5XChHGvDUZdECQt6wqy-r0&m=RAGBmF966pdjcIHBN0d5uO3WBl3Nt_3a5YLmeh_7fNY&s=LbQ4Cq-4haShnV8Yh9lBERq-JlQh7EdOwJI--6543uU&e=> Thanks, Poonam On 6/3/2016 9:36 AM, Jon Masamitsu wrote: Corbin, Do you have a benchmark that will exhibit this problem? If not, does you application just create lots of interned strings that are long lived? Thanks. Jon On 5/31/2016 3:36 PM, Hughes,Corbin wrote: After coming across -XX:+PrintGCTaskTimeStamps, I noticed that the listed tasks don't add up to the listed PSYoungGen times, so I ended up adding more "printf" style timing outputs to the hotspot source, and ended up tracking it down. Turns out it's the interned strings. The way they're GC'd isn't particularly efficient for large numbers of strings: the call to StringTable::unlink_or_oops_do(&_is_alive_closure, &root_closure); was taking ~185 ms of the ~200 ms. I wish there were a flag to disable GC of interned strings, but I think we'll be able to get away with using something like a Guava Interner instead of the built in StringTable, so mystery solved. From: hotspot-gc-use [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hughes,Corbin Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:24 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Unexpected Java 6 vs 8 GC performance difference Jon, Thanks for the interest. Hopefully this log will be more helpful. This is Java 7 with the -XX:-UseParallelOldGC flag. Perhaps notably, the PSYoungGen collections are even slower in Java 7 (regardless of whether or not the serial old collector is used). Thanks, Corbin {Heap before GC invocations=456 (full 0): PSYoungGen total 2091008K, used 2087456K [0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000800000000, 0x0000000800000000) eden space 2084864K, 100% used [0x0000000780000000,0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ff400000) from space 6144K, 42% used [0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ff688000,0x00000007ffa00000) to space 6144K, 0% used [0x00000007ffa00000,0x00000007ffa00000,0x0000000800000000) PSOldGen total 3145728K, used 2267941K [0x00000006c0000000, 0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000780000000) object space 3145728K, 72% used [0x00000006c0000000,0x000000074a6c9508,0x0000000780000000) PSPermGen total 819200K, used 57100K [0x0000000680000000, 0x00000006b2000000, 0x00000006c0000000) object space 819200K, 6% used [0x0000000680000000,0x00000006837c3130,0x00000006b2000000) 1461.284: [GC Desired survivor size 6291456 bytes, new threshold 1 (max 15) [PSYoungGen: 2087456K->1482K(2091008K)] 4355397K->2269463K(5236736K), 0.2986350 secs] [Times: user=0.34 sys=0.00, real=0.30 secs] Heap after GC invocations=456 (full 0): PSYoungGen total 2091008K, used 1482K [0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000800000000, 0x0000000800000000) eden space 2084864K, 0% used [0x0000000780000000,0x0000000780000000,0x00000007ff400000) from space 6144K, 24% used [0x00000007ffa00000,0x00000007ffb72928,0x0000000800000000) to space 6144K, 0% used [0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ffa00000) PSOldGen total 3145728K, used 2267981K [0x00000006c0000000, 0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000780000000) object space 3145728K, 72% used [0x00000006c0000000,0x000000074a6d3528,0x0000000780000000) PSPermGen total 819200K, used 57100K [0x0000000680000000, 0x00000006b2000000, 0x00000006c0000000) object space 819200K, 6% used [0x0000000680000000,0x00000006837c3130,0x00000006b2000000) } {Heap before GC invocations=457 (full 0): PSYoungGen total 2091008K, used 2086346K [0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000800000000, 0x0000000800000000) eden space 2084864K, 100% used [0x0000000780000000,0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ff400000) from space 6144K, 24% used [0x00000007ffa00000,0x00000007ffb72928,0x0000000800000000) to space 6144K, 0% used [0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ffa00000) PSOldGen total 3145728K, used 2267981K [0x00000006c0000000, 0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000780000000) object space 3145728K, 72% used [0x00000006c0000000,0x000000074a6d3528,0x0000000780000000) PSPermGen total 819200K, used 57100K [0x0000000680000000, 0x00000006b2000000, 0x00000006c0000000) object space 819200K, 6% used [0x0000000680000000,0x00000006837c3130,0x00000006b2000000) 1463.560: [GC Desired survivor size 6291456 bytes, new threshold 1 (max 15) [PSYoungGen: 2086346K->3177K(2091008K)] 4354327K->2271183K(5236736K), 0.2974600 secs] [Times: user=0.33 sys=0.00, real=0.30 secs] Heap after GC invocations=457 (full 0): PSYoungGen total 2091008K, used 3177K [0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000800000000, 0x0000000800000000) eden space 2084864K, 0% used [0x0000000780000000,0x0000000780000000,0x00000007ff400000) from space 6144K, 51% used [0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ff71a730,0x00000007ffa00000) to space 6144K, 0% used [0x00000007ffa00000,0x00000007ffa00000,0x0000000800000000) PSOldGen total 3145728K, used 2268005K [0x00000006c0000000, 0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000780000000) object space 3145728K, 72% used [0x00000006c0000000,0x000000074a6d9528,0x0000000780000000) PSPermGen total 819200K, used 57100K [0x0000000680000000, 0x00000006b2000000, 0x00000006c0000000) object space 819200K, 6% used [0x0000000680000000,0x00000006837c3130,0x00000006b2000000) } {Heap before GC invocations=458 (full 0): PSYoungGen total 2091008K, used 2088041K [0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000800000000, 0x0000000800000000) eden space 2084864K, 100% used [0x0000000780000000,0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ff400000) from space 6144K, 51% used [0x00000007ff400000,0x00000007ff71a730,0x00000007ffa00000) to space 6144K, 0% used [0x00000007ffa00000,0x00000007ffa00000,0x0000000800000000) PSOldGen total 3145728K, used 2268005K [0x00000006c0000000, 0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000780000000) object space 3145728K, 72% used [0x00000006c0000000,0x000000074a6d9528,0x0000000780000000) PSPermGen total 819200K, used 57100K [0x0000000680000000, 0x00000006b2000000, 0x00000006c0000000) object space 819200K, 6% used [0x0000000680000000,0x00000006837c31b0,0x00000006b2000000) 1465.998: [GC Desired survivor size 6291456 bytes, new threshold 1 (max 15) [PSYoungGen: 2088041K->1456K(2091008K)] 4356047K->2269485K(5236736K), 0.2940590 secs] [Times: user=0.33 sys=0.00, real=0.29 secs] Heap after GC invocations=458 (full 0): PSYoungGen total 2091008K, used 1456K [0x0000000780000000, 0x0000000800000000, 0x0000000800000000) eden space 2084864K, 0% used [0x0000000780000000,0x0000000780000000,0x00000007ff400000) from space 6144K, 23% used [0x00000007ffa00000,0x00000007ffb6c188,0x0000000800000000) to space 6144K, 0% used 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