-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-09-16 02:21, Ken Fallon wrote: > On 2015-09-16 01:29, lostnbronx wrote: >> I know this may seem heretical, but I'm not entirely convinced that >> there IS a problem here, except in the area of running out of shows >> (which is always a danger). I mean, what exactly IS a community >> podcast? To my way of mind, it's a show where listeners are free to >> contribute, with no (or few) restrictions. That describes HPR right >> now. > >> The issue I believe we're really talking about is how to get more >> voices on the show. That's a very worthy discussion to have, but I >> don't think it represents a crisis. It's similar discussions we've >> had in the past about how to get more women or girls to contribute; >> how to get more minorities involved; how to get "non-techie" people t o >> make shows; etc. In other ords, how to be more inclusive. We >> reexamine these issues, and return to them time and again, the way a >> dynamic community of people should. > >> I don't believe we have a different problem here than we've ever have . >> Yes, there have been a lot of eps from just a few voices lately -- bu t >> has the show seen a loss of subscribers because of it? If not, then >> the silent majority does not mind. Why, I remember years past when >> Klaatu had at least one show up per week -- he was podcasting demon - - - >> but no one complained, because everyone loves his content. If >> anything, that kind of stability gained us subscribers. > I agree with you up to this point, although I personally am more > concerned about how many benefited from the shows, over the number of > subscribers we have. > > >> So long as people feel they CAN participate in this great community, >> then we're doing what we should. This means we always encourage them >> to participate IF THEY WANT TO. They don't have to, and should never >> feel pressured to. They owe us nothing. They listen to us. They >> give us their time and attention. Those are NOT small things -- >> really, they're the most important things in the world, and they give >> them up for free. > > For your work with Cavalcade Audio you are correct, although I would > argue that even there there is the onus to contribute if not > financially, well then with feedback. > > On HPR it's a different story and it's where the words "community > podcast" comes in. I made the analogy of a Ted Talk versus a Bar Camp, > or a Lecture versus a show and tell, or a Traditional Irish Music > Recital versus a Trad Session in the pub. There are different > expectations with regard to participation. There is no "they" there is > only "us". We all contribute shows so yes "they" do owe "us" a show > because we are all in this together. > > >> So long as HPR's listeners continue to know that they are always >> welcome, a few of them here and there will inevitably feel the crazy >> urge to record their thoughts and add them to the queue. And when it >> happens, no matter how seldom, we know that the system we've built is >> working. In my opinion that's the very definition of a community >> podcast, and HPR is walking the walk. > >> -LnB > > Remember that the people who submit the filler slots also have a right > to participate only IF THEY WANT TO. Have you not heard the shows wher e > people say, "I'm putting this out because we're a little short of show s > at the moment" ? It's probably easy to miss because of the quality of > the shows. > > That for me is the crisis point, where someone has had to rush a show to > get it up on time. Sure I have a list of contributors I know I can hit > up for a quick show if needed, but it would be good if it was the > exception rather than the rule. > > Just have a look at red line the graph > http://hackerpublicradio.org/images/hprstats.png Every time it goes > under 5 we start to plan for filler shows. I would like for the > community to collectively come up with a plan to spread the load. > >
When I responded to this email I was at a complete loss to know how anyone could come to the conclusion that HPR did *not* expect everyone who listens to contribute. But now that I have been thinking about it for a few days, I'm at a complete loss to know how I came to the conclusion that HPR *did* expect people to contribute. Sure it makes sense that if you want to continue people should contribute, but I'm afraid I need to do a 180 and agree with lostnbronx that no one "owes" us anything. The license is clear, cc-by-sa. As long as you give attribution and share it under the same license then there is no obligation to do anything else. So basically no more "you owe me a show", just "you might want to send in a show if you want this project to continue. Not as catchy but more accurate. Thanks to lostnbronx for the reality check and correction. - -- Regards, Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWBuD+AAoJECO2jUN3MRFpc4YQALTyaIp7Q8mNbPIi6KWrk+6a BvIHwx09NtVfxWKftZXHkBPC0ly5ltMmfcT5G8qN+JxJtrlLrUQQtiBvbvRb0gyW 0hnj/CKQIobOq03SxZXNW+knRvKa8tU+k/NSPR8a1ebaat5qOXRHttdSRTDms8lF XacFHgQF5l4beRV0pCKUoExKxSJgA73v8xn/wbzeGXhonYbRqzOQUHvN/6TKUAHD mhAhbEb+UpNFcykrnnQ45otEQ9kNetG/ZixHj9AQM5/x2uYkwaiTikDz9Fty9OuR y1gK+mv7eyUstIfMeNF1rSJfxOLfLGTm2dMaiGyxZDUwvuegH9ydqCHMy2Kdn3vd e9ULw3yJoZF8jxBtaWZ0XQw7tXLHhYZ2Vd/P5T/GhV9EAxMKBp/FbWy/Ly4mVk5A gKSwGZXqJg79mEEMb72dl6C3eNjQwu2dhbugLhutaNiE4/JCOwGVgQ3aliRrQ98r /xzA6BrYNuJnQXJ88hfO1ULjE/4BiZLAwlAYln5xFMyM4CroGnybsYDkpStU3lWK MTSVquAn/E6z6d7iL2mEh6ur6DcHLRdH9ApFzAt0XOCKhOB7Id8Uj2QQw0xHDRQs w1/JfnEUGN/W9La3Jj7h8mlg0nanVLkL8q3Cma6RVAYl73Fp0ZrnsCCMGOe9l9/b JPx8/hXlg6wrUQ1JJ8pB =6YcE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Hpr mailing list [email protected] http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
