While I do 'owe you a show', I do believe that it's not realistic to
expect more than a very small percentage of listeners to contribute.
That percentage is likely to drop as the listener base increases. The
simple fact is not everyone wants to contribute a show and not everyone
has a show in them. I think the barrier to entry is about as low as it
can be right now, and that's all we can hope for. I say continue to
keep the barrier to entry as low as possible and encourage people to
contribute.
On 09/26/2015 02:16 PM, Ken Fallon wrote:
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On 2015-09-16 02:21, Ken Fallon wrote:
On 2015-09-16 01:29, lostnbronx wrote:
I know this may seem heretical, but I'm not entirely convinced that
there IS a problem here, except in the area of running out of shows
(which is always a danger). I mean, what exactly IS a community
podcast? To my way of mind, it's a show where listeners are free to
contribute, with no (or few) restrictions. That describes HPR right
now.
The issue I believe we're really talking about is how to get more
voices on the show. That's a very worthy discussion to have, but I
don't think it represents a crisis. It's similar discussions we've
had in the past about how to get more women or girls to contribute;
how to get more minorities involved; how to get "non-techie" people t
o
make shows; etc. In other ords, how to be more inclusive. We
reexamine these issues, and return to them time and again, the way a
dynamic community of people should.
I don't believe we have a different problem here than we've ever have
.
Yes, there have been a lot of eps from just a few voices lately -- bu
t
has the show seen a loss of subscribers because of it? If not, then
the silent majority does not mind. Why, I remember years past when
Klaatu had at least one show up per week -- he was podcasting demon -
- -
but no one complained, because everyone loves his content. If
anything, that kind of stability gained us subscribers.
I agree with you up to this point, although I personally am more
concerned about how many benefited from the shows, over the number of
subscribers we have.
So long as people feel they CAN participate in this great community,
then we're doing what we should. This means we always encourage them
to participate IF THEY WANT TO. They don't have to, and should never
feel pressured to. They owe us nothing. They listen to us. They
give us their time and attention. Those are NOT small things --
really, they're the most important things in the world, and they give
them up for free.
For your work with Cavalcade Audio you are correct, although I would
argue that even there there is the onus to contribute if not
financially, well then with feedback.
On HPR it's a different story and it's where the words "community
podcast" comes in. I made the analogy of a Ted Talk versus a Bar Camp,
or a Lecture versus a show and tell, or a Traditional Irish Music
Recital versus a Trad Session in the pub. There are different
expectations with regard to participation. There is no "they" there is
only "us". We all contribute shows so yes "they" do owe "us" a show
because we are all in this together.
So long as HPR's listeners continue to know that they are always
welcome, a few of them here and there will inevitably feel the crazy
urge to record their thoughts and add them to the queue. And when it
happens, no matter how seldom, we know that the system we've built is
working. In my opinion that's the very definition of a community
podcast, and HPR is walking the walk.
-LnB
Remember that the people who submit the filler slots also have a right
to participate only IF THEY WANT TO. Have you not heard the shows wher
e
people say, "I'm putting this out because we're a little short of show
s
at the moment" ? It's probably easy to miss because of the quality of
the shows.
That for me is the crisis point, where someone has had to rush a show
to
get it up on time. Sure I have a list of contributors I know I can hit
up for a quick show if needed, but it would be good if it was the
exception rather than the rule.
Just have a look at red line the graph
http://hackerpublicradio.org/images/hprstats.png Every time it goes
under 5 we start to plan for filler shows. I would like for the
community to collectively come up with a plan to spread the load.
When I responded to this email I was at a complete loss to know how
anyone could come to the conclusion that HPR did *not* expect everyone
who listens to contribute.
But now that I have been thinking about it for a few days, I'm at a
complete loss to know how I came to the conclusion that HPR *did* expect
people to contribute.
Sure it makes sense that if you want to continue people should
contribute, but I'm afraid I need to do a 180 and agree with lostnbronx
that no one "owes" us anything.
The license is clear, cc-by-sa. As long as you give attribution and
share it under the same license then there is no obligation to do
anything else.
So basically no more "you owe me a show", just "you might want to send
in a show if you want this project to continue. Not as catchy but more
accurate.
Thanks to lostnbronx for the reality check and correction.
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Regards,
Ken Fallon
http://kenfallon.com
http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
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