Hi Ken The third voice is head and shoulders above the other two to my ears. Above 200% speed I struggle to take everything in. By the time you get to 500% it is just a joke. Surely nobody can follow speech at that speed.
Beeza LibreOffice - Free and open source office suite: LibreOffice Website<https://www.libreoffice.org> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data ________________________________ From: Hpr <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Fallon <[email protected]> Sent: 11 January 2022 18:09 To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Hpr] takov751 Hi Mike, As a TTS engine for reading the screen back to me I am more than happy with it and use it continually during the day. It's not just visually impaired people that rely on TTS. It does that job and does it well. The objection I have to using espeak as the voice of HPR is that it is harsh, unfriendly and not welcoming, its so bad in fact that it makes kids cry. I speak from personal experience. When my kids were small I made a project based on espeak (in English) for them to interact with. It was a disaster. When the espeak voice started speaking they got scared, started to cry, ran away, and never wanted to have anything to do with it again. Over the years the biggest objection to the TTS on HPR has been the espeak voice. It has also been the biggest point of negative feedback I get when trying to promote HPR to potential interviewees or projects. If those are not valid enough reasons then I don't know what will convince you. I can also assure you my desktop wallpaper is the default supplied with my distro. In the past it has been argued that the more natural voices are difficult to understand when sped up. So I took the two most natural voices from the list and posted a side by side comparison to espeak at 150%, 200%, 250%, 300%, 350%, 400%, 450%, and 500%. In my opinion the coqui-tts_en_en_ljspeech is more understandable than espeak at every speed. Can everyone have a listen to this and tell me your preference https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhackerpublicradio.org%2Ftts-espeak-ljspeech-vctk-normal-150-200-250-300-350-400-450-500-percent.ogg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa9e5cf113f0411706b908d9d52db85a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637775214626255386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=LU99WKYC1M8TCvMdKh8hM6N4h%2BalZ9gmdlGY%2FG65VtA%3D&reserved=0 Ken. On 2022-01-11 14:35, Mike Ray wrote: > > > And here was me thinking about posting to the list about how much > better it is now with the softer music in the background and a nice > punchy eSpeak voice. > > I still have no idea what the objection to the eSpeak voice is. > > If you spend as many hours a day coding as I do, and rely on tts to > make this possible, then eSpeak is the way forward. Although I know > this may only be true for English speakers. Not sure how good eSpeak > is at other languages. > > People who complain about eSpeak are probably the same people who > never get any work done because they are constantly fiddling with the > desktop wallpaper. > > :-p > > > > > > On 11/01/2022 10:44, Ken Fallon wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> We got a comment from takov751 via >> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmatrix.to%2F%23%2F%23hpr%3Amatrix.org&data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa9e5cf113f0411706b908d9d52db85a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637775214626255386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Sxnt0xVQ%2B1EpCxXi%2FtWfLHlgnsyM4FMpp9X42%2FQY0KY%3D&reserved=0 >> >> <quote> >> >> Greetings i am a long listener of the shows . And of course planing >> to make my first show . I would like to ask question regarding tts at >> the beginning of the show usually I hear the espeak robotic voice . >> In the workflow have you considered using mimic1 or opentts / >> Mozillatts or something along those lines ? It’s seems like these >> would be compatible with licensing as well and bir more realistic >> voices . A few examples >> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhub.docker.com%2Fu%2Fsynesthesiam&data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa9e5cf113f0411706b908d9d52db85a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637775214626255386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=AE86feZPVXgAFElFBdWJkO3f48W6FbaCChLwJd9jBpU%3D&reserved=0 >> >> </quote> >> >> Re-posted with permission >> >> Sample voices are here: >> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsynesthesiam.github.io%2Fopentts&data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa9e5cf113f0411706b908d9d52db85a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637775214626255386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=AmlRQ9dHu3Es2TwBCFCDQO%2BAUFfWza0TmcABNESk2D8%3D&reserved=0 >> >> @Mike Ray >> >> I would like to try and get a happy balance between meeting your >> needs and having a voice that is friendly. While I love espeak it is >> not friendly - it literally put my kids in tears when they were >> younger :-) >> >> Could you have a listen to some of the other voices and see if any of >> them come close to your requirements for TTS >> >> FYI I find these two "friendly" >> >> * >> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsynesthesiam.github.io%2Fopentts%2F%23coqui-tts_en_en_ljspeech&data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa9e5cf113f0411706b908d9d52db85a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637775214626255386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2Fe%2F0wKykwaqOT%2BZY26xirz4ufyJoUmvU9CSogEl7L5Y%3D&reserved=0 >> * >> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsynesthesiam.github.io%2Fopentts%2F%23coqui-tts_en_en_vctk&data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa9e5cf113f0411706b908d9d52db85a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637775214626255386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3RJ0LsgU6xIWhdYG5DjCHWlmkLwA3CQ4lhs4BBhir6U%3D&reserved=0 >> > > _______________________________________________ Hpr mailing list [email protected] https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhackerpublicradio.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhpr_hackerpublicradio.org&data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa9e5cf113f0411706b908d9d52db85a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637775214626255386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=B1PV53RnsSgVJIN3HMGrYK909MTpLrMlFxu07cw3mtQ%3D&reserved=0
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