I have opened a different thread about how best to audit the work of the Janitors.

Moving the show is indeed becoming an issue and needs to be done this weekend. The initial suggestion was to move it to hpr3576 on 2022-04-18.

I suggest some of the people that objected to the move, or those who have concerns about the process contact me directly. I can walk them through the chain of events and they can report back to the list:

1. If the believe that the decisions taken by the Janitors (me in this
   case) were in good faith.
2. If they agree with the course of action suggested.

They would of course be bound to the same rules of confidentiality that I am.

Volunteers ?

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Regards,

Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon


On 2022-03-23 21:15, Carl D Hamann wrote:
On Mar 21, 2022, at 4:42 AM, Ken Fallon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> One of the shows in the queue has some issues. I spoke to the host about it and it is not clear if they want to remove it or replace it. I think they are off line for a bit as they haven't replied.
>
> Can I move the show out past the Community News so that the current slot can be freed up ? Hopefully that will give time for the host to reply.

Here's what I'm hearing so far:
1. Our current janitors are doing a good job, and we trust them to make decisions that are in the best interest of the podcast and the community. 2. Everyone, including the janitors, would prefer a clear, objective process that does not depend on that trust. 3. The current process is to reach out to the contributing host, after the show is posted to the `future` feed, if there are any potential issues with it. 5. If the contributing host cannot be reached, the mailing list is asked for permission to move the show temporarily, until the contributing host responds. The mailing list IS NOT asked to make a judgment on the "potential issue". 4. There is an open question about what constitutes a "potential issue" and whether the reach-out-to-host itself constitutes censorship or at least a chilling effect. (I feel discussing this is important but that answering the immediate question of temporarily moving the show is pressing and needs an answer.)

Given, that the janitors are following the current process, my answer is "yes, move the show".

As for the rest of us, feel free to continue debating whether that process needs altering 🙂 I think it's a healthy discussion that benefits the community, and ideally, allows the janitors to eventually hand over their duties and retire (should they so wish), secure in the knowledge that the process will safeguard both the podcast and the community for decades to come.

Sincerest appreciation,
- Laindir

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