I agree with Andrew on all points, including his PS.

Beeza

22 Mar 2022 09:20:13 Andrew Conway <[email protected]>:

> Ken
> 
> I agree with your reasoning about asking for permission and as it is a rare 
> event it won't consume too much of your or our time.
> 
> And yes, you have my approval in this instance.
> 
> Andrew
> PS As you are inclined to reject power I think you should be made president 
> or prime minister of somewhere.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022, 09:13 Ken Fallon, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Thanks for your feedback, however we do not wish to move the shows around 
>> without the hosts permission for any reason. The queue is there to prevent 
>> allegations of favoritism and is succeeding in it's task.
>> 
>> It is also a dangerous path to go down allowing the Janitors to deem a show 
>> inappropriate to be scheduled for any reason. Even a valid technical reason 
>> could be considers censorship. Then you get to defining "rules" for valid 
>> technical reasons, and as we saw with the "scheduling rules" - they simply 
>> do not work.
>> 
>> So the Janitors will move shows on host permission as normal, but will 
>> always ask the mail list where the host cannot or will not move their show.
>> 
>> We will always try to provide an explanation, as we did in the past for 
>> special events like protests (hpr0903 :: SOPA 
>> Protest[https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhackerpublicradio.org%2Feps.php%3Fid%3D0903&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8e2ce443d193439ac65708da0be52a29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637835376130000899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=j4tO37ixRlluOv2SrTMFk0BWYVy0MnWh%2B%2BhEQo4K4Lw%3D&reserved=0]),
>>  or anniversaries. That is not possible at this stage as the host has yet to 
>> decide what they wish to do.
>> 
>> However it's also not desirable to keep postponing the shows release into 
>> the main feed indefinitely.
>> 
>> My proposal is that we schedule the show in question for Mon 2022-04-18: 
>> hpr3576, two weeks after the next Community News. This will give the host 
>> ample time to respond, and if they don't then we can discuss the issues in 
>> question with the wider community on HPR Community News for March 2022.
>> 
>> So do I have the consent to move the show or not ?
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
>> https://kenfallon.com[https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkenfallon.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8e2ce443d193439ac65708da0be52a29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637835376130000899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=NIfxBHwO%2FGNVfErvMExqsb6BRXlD5MEtAn4gBy25Rvg%3D&reserved=0]
>> https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon[https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhackerpublicradio.org%2Fhosts%2Fken_fallon&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8e2ce443d193439ac65708da0be52a29%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637835376130000899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=w4D9qtDotmilOiFz6W2r44DWxTg3Tzsu3XX4YCRXhHY%3D&reserved=0]
>> 
>> On 2022-03-22 00:27, Brian Navarette wrote:
>> I agree with Dave Lee
>> 
>> Brian-in-ohio
>> 
>> On 3/21/22 09:38, Roan Horning wrote:
>> I am in agreement with Dave's assessment.
>> 
>> --Roan
>> 
>> On 3/21/22 09:31, Dave Lee (HPR) wrote:
>> I think this is _the _key point here.  I'm more than happy for the HPR 
>> Admins to make decisions where it is deemed inappropriate for a show to be 
>> scheduled for technical reasons - although not for content - without needing 
>> to seek permission first.
>> 
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
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