It's highly appreciated to keep the list address on replies, since others
may find the discussion useful and I'm far from the only person who can
answer them.

I don't think you want to run the standard rundig script with "-a" for the
first time, as the resulting databases will all have the .work extension
added to them--htsearch will not find them by default. But that's not your
question.

There is a "url_rewrite_rules" attribute introduced into 3.1.6 that allows
regex rewriting of URLs on-the-fly while indexing. This is used to do
things like stripping off dynamic session IDs, etc.

If you are not using the url_rewrite_rules attribute and you're seeing
"applying regex" messages, we'd like to see output from running "htdig
-vvv" as well as "htdig -?" (which should give the htdig version). Are you
sure you only have version 3.1.6?

Also, how have you installed ht://Dig? Since you use Solaris, I'm assuming
you compiled it yourself--what compiler did you use?


--
-Geoff Hutchison
Williams Students Online
http://wso.williams.edu/



On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Roger M Clarke wrote:

> Geoff
> 
> We are using version 3.1.6 on Solaris 5.8 and this is a real problem.
> 
> We are running the standard rundig script with alt=-a added, is it ok to add
> this option
> the first time rundig is run for an htdig installation?
> 
> I am not intending to use URL rewrite rules, please explain what these are
> in htdig terms.
> 
> thanks
> 
> R
> 
> 
> The htdig.conf is as follows
> 
> ============================================================================
> ========
> #
> # Example config file for ht://Dig.
> #
> # This configuration file is used by all the programs that make up ht://Dig.
> # Please refer to the attribute reference manual for more details on what
> # can be put into this file.  (http://www.htdig.org/confindex.html)
> # Note that most attributes have very reasonable default values so you
> # really only have to add attributes here if you want to change the
> defaults.
> #
> # What follows are some of the common attributes you might want to change.
> #
> # apw 12/1/01
> image_url_prefix:       /htdig/images
> pdf_parser:     /soft/Acrobat4/bin/acroread -toPostScript -pairs
> 
> #
> # Specify where the database files need to go.  Make sure that there is
> # plenty of free disk space available for the databases.  They can get
> # pretty big.
> #
> database_dir:           /data/WWW2-htdig/db
> 
> #
> # This specifies the URL where the robot (htdig) will start.  You can
> specify
> # multiple URLs here.  Just separate them by some whitespace.
> # The example here will cause the ht://Dig homepage and related pages to be
> # indexed.
> # You could also index all the URLs in a file like so:
> # start_url:           `${common_dir}/start.url`
> #
> #start_url:             http://www.htdig.org/
> start_url:              http://www2.brookes.ac.uk/
> 
> #
> # This attribute limits the scope of the indexing process.  The default is
> to
> # set it to the same as the start_url above.  This way only pages that are
> on
> # the sites specified in the start_url attribute will be indexed and it will
> # reject any URLs that go outside of those sites.
> #
> # Keep in mind that the value for this attribute is just a list of string
> # patterns. As long as URLs contain at least one of the patterns it will be
> # seen as part of the scope of the index.
> #
> limit_urls_to:          ${start_url}
> 
> #
> # If there are particular pages that you definately do NOT want to index,
> you
> # can use the exclude_urls attribute.  The value is a list of string
> patterns.
> # If a URL matches any of the patterns, it will NOT be indexed.  This is
> # useful to exclude things like virtual web trees or database accesses.  By
> # default, all CGI URLs will be excluded.  (Note that the /cgi-bin/
> convention
> # may not work on your web server.  Check the  path prefix used on your web
> # server.)
> #
> # Updated by Roger Clarke 21/05/02
> #
> exclude_urls:   /cgi-bin/ .cgi /GsharpWE/  /bin/ /rjs/ /images/ /temp/
> /hardship
> / /hotmetal/ /errors/ /excite/ /htdig/ /noframes/ m0*.html test.html
> temp.html e
> mail.html footer.html header.html homeold.html oder.html Rules
> 
> 
> #
> # Since ht://Dig does not (and cannot) parse every document type, this
> # attribute is a list of strings (extensions) that will be ignored during
> # indexing. These are *only* checked at the end of a URL, whereas
> # exclude_url patterns are matched anywhere.
> #
> bad_extensions:         .wav .gz .z .sit .au .zip .tar .hqx .exe .com .gif \
>                 .jpg .jpeg .aiff .class .map .ram .tgz .bin .rpm .mpg .mov
> .avi
> 
> #
> # The string htdig will send in every request to identify the robot.  Change
> # this to your email address.
> #
> maintainer:             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> #
> # The excerpts that are displayed in long results rely on stored information
> # in the index databases.  The compiled default only stores 512 characters
> of
> # text from each document (this excludes any HTML markup...)  If you plan on
> # using the excerpts you probably want to make this larger.  The only
> concern
> # here is that more disk space is going to be needed to store the additional
> # information.  Since disk space is cheap (! :-)) you might want to set this
> # to a value so that a large percentage of the documents that you are going
> # to be indexing are stored completely in the database.  At SDSU we found
> # that by setting this value to about 50k the index would get 97% of all
> # documents completely and only 3% was cut off at 50k.  You probably want to
> # experiment with this value.
> # Note that if you want to set this value low, you probably want to set the
> # excerpt_show_top attribute to false so that the top excerpt_length
> characters
> # of the document are always shown.
> #
> max_head_length:        10000
> 
> #
> # To limit network connections, ht://Dig will only pull up to a certain
> limit
> # of bytes. This prevents the indexing from dying because the server keeps
> # sending information. However, several FAQs happen because people have
> files
> # bigger than the default limit of 100KB. This sets the default a bit
> higher.
> # (see <http://www.htdig.org/FAQ.html> for more)
> #
> # apw 12/1/01 changed to 5MB for pdf files
> #max_doc_size:          200000
> max_doc_size:           5000000
> 
> #
> # Most people expect some sort of excerpt in results. By default, if the
> # search words aren't found in context in the stored excerpt, htsearch shows
> # the text defined in the no_excerpt_text attribute:
> # (None of the search words were found in the top of this document.)
> # This attribute instead will show the top of the excerpt.
> #
> no_excerpt_show_top:    true
> 
> #
> # Depending on your needs, you might want to enable some of the fuzzy search
> # algorithms.  There are several to choose from and you can use them in any
> # combination you feel comfortable with.  Each algorithm will get a weight
> # assigned to it so that in combinations of algorithms, certain algorithms
> get
> # preference over others.  Note that the weights only affect the ranking of
> # the results, not the actual searching.
> # The available algorithms are:
> #       exact
> #       endings
> #       metaphone
> #       prefix
> #       soundex
> #       synonyms
> # By default only the "exact" algorithm is used with weight 1.
> # Note that if you are going to use the endings, metaphone, soundex,
> # or synonyms algorithms, you will need to run htfuzzy to generate
> # the databases they use.
> #
> search_algorithm:       exact:1 synonyms:0.5 endings:0.1
> 
> #
> # The following are the templates used in the builtin search results
> # The default is to use compiled versions of these files, which produces
> # slightly faster results. However, uncommenting these lines makes it
> # very easy to change the format of search results.
> # See <http://www.htdig.org/hts_templates.html for more details.
> #
> # template_map: Long long ${common_dir}/long.html \
> #               Short short ${common_dir}/short.html
> # template_name: long
> 
> #
> # The following are used to change the text for the page index.
> # The defaults are just boring text numbers.  These images spice
> # up the result pages quite a bit.  (Feel free to do whatever, though)
> #
> next_page_text:         <img src="/htdig/images/buttonr.gif" border="0"
> align="m
> iddle" width="30" height="30" alt="next">
> no_next_page_text:
> prev_page_text:         <img src="/htdig/images/buttonl.gif" border="0"
> align="m
> iddle" width="30" height="30" alt="prev">
> no_prev_page_text:
> page_number_text:       '<img src="/htdig/images/button1.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="1">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button2.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="2">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button3.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="3">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button4.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="4">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button5.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="5">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button6.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="6">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button7.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="7">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button8.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="8">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button9.gif" border="0"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="9">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button10.gif" border="0"
> align=
> "middle" width="30" height="30" alt="10">'
> #
> # To make the current page stand out, we will put a border arround the
> # image for that page.
> #
> no_page_number_text:    '<img src="/htdig/images/button1.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="1">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button2.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="2">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button3.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="3">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button4.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="4">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button5.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="5">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button6.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="6">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button7.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="7">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button8.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="8">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button9.gif" border="2"
> align="
> middle" width="30" height="30" alt="9">' \
>                         '<img src="/htdig/images/button10.gif" border="2"
> align=
> "middle" width="30" height="30" alt="10">'
> 
> # local variables:
> # mode: text
> # eval: (if (eq window-system 'x) (progn (setq font-lock-keywords (list
> '("^#.*"
>  . font-lock-keyword-face) '("^[a-zA-Z][^ :]+" .
> font-lock-function-name-face) '
> ("[+$]*:" . font-lock-comment-face) )) (font-lock-mode)))
> # end:
> ============================================================================
> ======
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Geoff
> Hutchison
> Sent: 04 September 2002 17:33
> To: Roger M Clarke
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [htdig] rundig cannot get beyond "Applying regex
> '^.*[aeiou]y$' to aaa"
> 
> 
> 
> > We have one version of htdig running against our internet site without
> > problem and very good it is certainly compared to Excite.
> >
> > We have now created another copy of htdig on our intranet (seperate for
> > security purposes).
> 
> OK, it would be *really* helpful to know what the versions of ht://Dig
> you're using here.
> 
> > The process it is repeating is "Applying regex '^.*[aeiou]y$' to aaa" it
> > looks like it cannot get past aaa.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a hypothetical example or a real one. Since you're
> apparently trying to use url_rewrite_rules, I'm guessing you're using
> 3.1.6 or a snapshot of 3.2.0b4. As I said, it'd really help to know which
> version you're using (and preferably which OS).
> 
> It would also really help to know what your configuration looks like--in
> this case, the url_rewrite_rules if that's what you're using. And an
> actual error message--if you like, try changing hostnames to protect the
> innocent. (But if it's an actual bug, we'll need as much info as possible
> to reproduce the bug.)
> 
> --
> -Geoff Hutchison
> Williams Students Online
> http://wso.williams.edu/
> 
> 
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