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On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 3:13 PM, David Hosier wrote:

> Ok, thanks. I'm taking a stab at a patch right now.
> 
> -- David Hosier
> 
> On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 14:23 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 13:21 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
> > > > > Understood. The library does not support the use case of obtaining 
> > > > > the entity of a response via the recommended usage for any response 
> > > > > other than a 2xx.
> > > > 
> > > > BasicResponseHandler does not, hence, unsurprisingly, the name Basic.
> > > > However, there is _nothing_ that prevents you from writing a custom,
> > > > better ResponseHandler which handles response entities differently.
> > > > While the ResponseHandler interface is indeed the recommended way of
> > > > handling responses, the BasicResponseHandler is just its very basic
> > > > implementation which was never meant to be used for anything else but
> > > > the most simplistic use cases. No one in their sane mind should _ever_
> > > > convert an HTTP response to a string in a productive application. 
> > > > 
> > > > >  Additionally, the javadoc for BasicResponseHandler is incorrect. 
> > > > 
> > > > What exactly is incorrect? If you think javadocs are not clear enough or
> > > > specific enough I'll happily apply a patch if you submit one.
> > > I went and looked more closely, and the issue is that I was looking at 
> > > the class-level javadoc for BasicResponseHandler. The class-level javadoc 
> > > indicates that the response body is read before throwing the exception on 
> > > status codes >=300. However, the javadoc for the handleResponse() method 
> > > does not indicate that the response body is read. The statement about 
> > > reading the response body on >=300 really only occurs when used with 
> > > HttpClient, and it's that class that actually does the reading. That's 
> > > how I read the code at least.
> > 
> > Fair enough. This may sound misleading if taken out of the usual context
> > of always using ResponseHandler together with HttpClient. I'll tweak the
> > javadocs tomorrow (unless you would like to submit a patch yourself)
> > 
> > Oleg
> > 
> > > > Oleg
> > > > 
> > > > > So now that I understand better how things work, I can take action 
> > > > > accordingly. Thanks for the responses.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- David Hosier
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 11:31 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
> > > > > > > I'm using the DefaultHttpClient to make the call, yes. I want to 
> > > > > > > use DefaultHttpClient with the ResponseHandler the way I am 
> > > > > > > supposed to. However, the API does not give me the ability to get 
> > > > > > > a hold of the Entity if the status code is 404, because it throws 
> > > > > > > an Exception which does not contain the entity value. I need the 
> > > > > > > Entity value, even if the call returns 404. As far as I can tell, 
> > > > > > > I cannot get the information I need from the API the way it is 
> > > > > > > designed to be used. Is that clearer? Is my assessment correct?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, it is intentional that the exception thrown does not contain a
> > > > > > response body, because it would involve reading the entire body 
> > > > > > content
> > > > > > into a memory buffer.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Oleg
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -- David Hosier
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 10:47 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I am using this to interface with some REST services. One key 
> > > > > > > > > to a good REST service is to never let something like a 404 
> > > > > > > > > spit out the server's generic 404 HTML page in response to a 
> > > > > > > > > REST request. So my service instead returns an entity with 
> > > > > > > > > the 404 that says something like "Could not find alert 
> > > > > > > > > 12334". I should be able to show this response entity. 
> > > > > > > > > However, given the way the ResponseHandler works with 
> > > > > > > > > HttpClient, this is not possible, because the entity is not 
> > > > > > > > > part of the Exception that is thrown when the ResponseHandler 
> > > > > > > > > encounters a 404. Without manually reading the entity after 
> > > > > > > > > ResponseHandler throws an Exception, I would only be able to 
> > > > > > > > > show the fields that are contained in the Exception. That 
> > > > > > > > > means I could only show the text 'Not Found', which is hardly 
> > > > > > > > > meaningful since the status code of 404 already tells me that.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You are using ResponseHandler to interface with some REST 
> > > > > > > > services
> > > > > > > > without using DefaultHttpClient? I am sorry but it still makes 
> > > > > > > > no sense
> > > > > > > > to me. You might as well handle responses from that service 
> > > > > > > > _any_ way
> > > > > > > > you like without using a ResponseHandler.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Oleg
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > -- David Hosier
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 02:59 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I see what the difference is in this situation. I am 
> > > > > > > > > > > not passing the ResponseHandler to the execute() method. 
> > > > > > > > > > > I am actually calling handleResponse() on the 
> > > > > > > > > > > ResponseHandler manually.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I honestly see no sense in doing so. ResponseHandler is 
> > > > > > > > > > pretty much
> > > > > > > > > > useless without the resource management code in 
> > > > > > > > > > AbstractHttpClient.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > What is the reason you want to invoke #handleResponse 
> > > > > > > > > > manually?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Oleg
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >  The problem I have with the implementation is that I 
> > > > > > > > > > > return error messages on error conditions. With the way 
> > > > > > > > > > > this works, you can only get very basic information from 
> > > > > > > > > > > the HttpResponseException. For example, on a 404, it 
> > > > > > > > > > > looks like the Exception only contains 404 and 'Not 
> > > > > > > > > > > Found'. I am able to pluck out the entity when invoking 
> > > > > > > > > > > handleResponse() manually by simply consuming the entity 
> > > > > > > > > > > myself, but it's not possible to get the entity if the 
> > > > > > > > > > > ResponseHandler is passed to execute() and the status is 
> > > > > > > > > > > not 2xx. Am I off base here or is my analysis correct? 
> > > > > > > > > > > Would you recommend that if I really need the entity on a 
> > > > > > > > > > > non-2xx response that I just keep manually consuming the 
> > > > > > > > > > > entity? I'm not sure it would make sense for your library 
> > > > > > > > > > > to attempt to consume the entity in BasicResponseHandler 
> > > > > > > > > > > and try to add it as an
> > > > > > > > > > >  other fi
> > > > > > > > > > > eld to the HttpResponseException. The AbstractHttpClient 
> > > > > > > > > > > code you linked me to would have to change if you did 
> > > > > > > > > > > that.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > -- David Hosier
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:30 AM, David Hosier 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Oleg 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kalnichevski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 13:44 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I'm wrong, but the code for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BasicResponseHandler in httpclient 4.1.2 does not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > satisfy the javadocs as written. The javadoc states 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If the response code was >= 300, the response body 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is consumed and an HttpResponseException 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (http://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-ga/httpclient/apidocs/org/apache/http/client/HttpResponseException.html)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  is thrown."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the code does not do that:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > StatusLine statusLine = response.getStatusLine();
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if (statusLine.getStatusCode() >= 300) {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  throw new 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > HttpResponseException(statusLine.getStatusCode(),
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  statusLine.getReasonPhrase());
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > HttpEntity entity = response.getEntity();
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > return entity == null ? null : 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > EntityUtils.toString(entity);
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The code clearly throws the Exception without 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reading the entity. So what happens is that if you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a non-2xx response, connections are never 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > released as can be seen by enabling DEBUG logging 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the library. Am I misreading the code or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > javadocs, or is this really broken? If I catch the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exception and then read the entity manually like 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shown above, I can see the connections being closed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The resource management is taken care of by 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > HttpClient [1]. I do not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > think BasicResponseHandler is broken. The whole point 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of ResponseHandler
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is to free the user from having to worry about 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > resource management and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > response entities.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. Thanks for the link to the code. I can 
> > > > > > > > > > > > assure you that in my situation however, that the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > connections are not getting closed. I'll take a closer 
> > > > > > > > > > > > look at the code and compare it to this linked code to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > see if I'm using the right stuff. My assumption at this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > point then is that I'm just doing something wrong. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Oleg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-ga/httpclient/xref/org/apache/http/impl/client/AbstractHttpClient.html#930
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