On 6 October 2011 23:29, David Hosier <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 3:13 PM, David Hosier wrote:
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>> Ok, thanks. I'm taking a stab at a patch right now.
>>
>> -- David Hosier
>>
>> On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 14:23 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
>> > > > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 13:21 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
>> > > > > Understood. The library does not support the use case of obtaining 
>> > > > > the entity of a response via the recommended usage for any response 
>> > > > > other than a 2xx.
>> > > >
>> > > > BasicResponseHandler does not, hence, unsurprisingly, the name Basic.
>> > > > However, there is _nothing_ that prevents you from writing a custom,
>> > > > better ResponseHandler which handles response entities differently.
>> > > > While the ResponseHandler interface is indeed the recommended way of
>> > > > handling responses, the BasicResponseHandler is just its very basic
>> > > > implementation which was never meant to be used for anything else but
>> > > > the most simplistic use cases. No one in their sane mind should _ever_
>> > > > convert an HTTP response to a string in a productive application.
>> > > >
>> > > > >  Additionally, the javadoc for BasicResponseHandler is incorrect.
>> > > >
>> > > > What exactly is incorrect? If you think javadocs are not clear enough 
>> > > > or
>> > > > specific enough I'll happily apply a patch if you submit one.
>> > > I went and looked more closely, and the issue is that I was looking at 
>> > > the class-level javadoc for BasicResponseHandler. The class-level 
>> > > javadoc indicates that the response body is read before throwing the 
>> > > exception on status codes >=300. However, the javadoc for the 
>> > > handleResponse() method does not indicate that the response body is 
>> > > read. The statement about reading the response body on >=300 really only 
>> > > occurs when used with HttpClient, and it's that class that actually does 
>> > > the reading. That's how I read the code at least.
>> >
>> > Fair enough. This may sound misleading if taken out of the usual context
>> > of always using ResponseHandler together with HttpClient. I'll tweak the
>> > javadocs tomorrow (unless you would like to submit a patch yourself)
>> >
>> > Oleg
>> >
>> > > > Oleg
>> > > >
>> > > > > So now that I understand better how things work, I can take action 
>> > > > > accordingly. Thanks for the responses.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -- David Hosier
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 11:31 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
>> > > > > > > I'm using the DefaultHttpClient to make the call, yes. I want to 
>> > > > > > > use DefaultHttpClient with the ResponseHandler the way I am 
>> > > > > > > supposed to. However, the API does not give me the ability to 
>> > > > > > > get a hold of the Entity if the status code is 404, because it 
>> > > > > > > throws an Exception which does not contain the entity value. I 
>> > > > > > > need the Entity value, even if the call returns 404. As far as I 
>> > > > > > > can tell, I cannot get the information I need from the API the 
>> > > > > > > way it is designed to be used. Is that clearer? Is my assessment 
>> > > > > > > correct?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Yes, it is intentional that the exception thrown does not contain a
>> > > > > > response body, because it would involve reading the entire body 
>> > > > > > content
>> > > > > > into a memory buffer.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Oleg
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -- David Hosier
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski 
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 10:47 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > I am using this to interface with some REST services. One 
>> > > > > > > > > key to a good REST service is to never let something like a 
>> > > > > > > > > 404 spit out the server's generic 404 HTML page in response 
>> > > > > > > > > to a REST request. So my service instead returns an entity 
>> > > > > > > > > with the 404 that says something like "Could not find alert 
>> > > > > > > > > 12334". I should be able to show this response entity. 
>> > > > > > > > > However, given the way the ResponseHandler works with 
>> > > > > > > > > HttpClient, this is not possible, because the entity is not 
>> > > > > > > > > part of the Exception that is thrown when the 
>> > > > > > > > > ResponseHandler encounters a 404. Without manually reading 
>> > > > > > > > > the entity after ResponseHandler throws an Exception, I 
>> > > > > > > > > would only be able to show the fields that are contained in 
>> > > > > > > > > the Exception. That means I could only show the text 'Not 
>> > > > > > > > > Found', which is hardly meaningful since the status code of 
>> > > > > > > > > 404 already tells me that.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > You are using ResponseHandler to interface with some REST 
>> > > > > > > > services
>> > > > > > > > without using DefaultHttpClient? I am sorry but it still makes 
>> > > > > > > > no sense
>> > > > > > > > to me. You might as well handle responses from that service 
>> > > > > > > > _any_ way
>> > > > > > > > you like without using a ResponseHandler.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Oleg
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > -- David Hosier
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski 
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 02:59 -0700, David Hosier wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I see what the difference is in this situation. I am 
>> > > > > > > > > > > not passing the ResponseHandler to the execute() method. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > I am actually calling handleResponse() on the 
>> > > > > > > > > > > ResponseHandler manually.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > I honestly see no sense in doing so. ResponseHandler is 
>> > > > > > > > > > pretty much
>> > > > > > > > > > useless without the resource management code in 
>> > > > > > > > > > AbstractHttpClient.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > What is the reason you want to invoke #handleResponse 
>> > > > > > > > > > manually?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Oleg
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >  The problem I have with the implementation is that I 
>> > > > > > > > > > > return error messages on error conditions. With the way 
>> > > > > > > > > > > this works, you can only get very basic information from 
>> > > > > > > > > > > the HttpResponseException. For example, on a 404, it 
>> > > > > > > > > > > looks like the Exception only contains 404 and 'Not 
>> > > > > > > > > > > Found'. I am able to pluck out the entity when invoking 
>> > > > > > > > > > > handleResponse() manually by simply consuming the entity 
>> > > > > > > > > > > myself, but it's not possible to get the entity if the 
>> > > > > > > > > > > ResponseHandler is passed to execute() and the status is 
>> > > > > > > > > > > not 2xx. Am I off base here or is my analysis correct? 
>> > > > > > > > > > > Would you recommend that if I really need the entity on 
>> > > > > > > > > > > a non-2xx response that I just keep manually consuming 
>> > > > > > > > > > > the entity? I'm not sure it would make sense for your 
>> > > > > > > > > > > library to attempt to consume the entity in 
>> > > > > > > > > > > BasicResponseHandler and try to add it as an
>> > > > > > > > > > >  other fi
>> > > > > > > > > > > eld to the HttpResponseException. The AbstractHttpClient 
>> > > > > > > > > > > code you linked me to would have to change if you did 
>> > > > > > > > > > > that.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > -- David Hosier
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:30 AM, David Hosier 
>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Oleg 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Kalnichevski wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 13:44 -0700, David Hosier 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I'm wrong, but the code for 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BasicResponseHandler in httpclient 4.1.2 does not 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > satisfy the javadocs as written. The javadoc 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > states the following:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If the response code was >= 300, the response 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > body is consumed and an HttpResponseException 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (http://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-ga/httpclient/apidocs/org/apache/http/client/HttpResponseException.html)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  is thrown."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the code does not do that:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > StatusLine statusLine = response.getStatusLine();
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if (statusLine.getStatusCode() >= 300) {
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  throw new 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > HttpResponseException(statusLine.getStatusCode(),
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  statusLine.getReasonPhrase());
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > }
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > HttpEntity entity = response.getEntity();
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > return entity == null ? null : 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > EntityUtils.toString(entity);
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The code clearly throws the Exception without 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reading the entity. So what happens is that if you 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a non-2xx response, connections are never 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > released as can be seen by enabling DEBUG logging 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the library. Am I misreading the code or 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > javadocs, or is this really broken? If I catch the 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exception and then read the entity manually like 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shown above, I can see the connections being 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > closed.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi David
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > The resource management is taken care of by 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > HttpClient [1]. I do not
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > think BasicResponseHandler is broken. The whole 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > point of ResponseHandler
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > is to free the user from having to worry about 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > resource management and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > response entities.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. Thanks for the link to the code. I can 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > assure you that in my situation however, that the 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > connections are not getting closed. I'll take a closer 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > look at the code and compare it to this linked code to 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > see if I'm using the right stuff. My assumption at 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > this point then is that I'm just doing something 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong. Thanks.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Oleg
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-ga/httpclient/xref/org/apache/http/impl/client/AbstractHttpClient.html#930
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