On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 15:20 +0200, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> Caught up on the thread, sorry for not listening.
> This is a reply to the whole thread..
> 
> To be honest, I think we need to solve this at a "higher" level. There are 
> always going to be (sub)
> projects that have less than 3 active people on it at any given time and when 
> being on their own
> this imposes a serious problem on making releases. So I think it is best to 
> proceed with figuring
> out (or getting opinions / resolutions from members/board) to see how they 
> see this situation handled.
> 

Hi Martin

I suppose you can expect a simple answer that a project unable to muster
3 binding votes does not meet ASF standards and should go to the
incubator or sourceforge. 

In case of HttpComponents we do not have a problem getting enough
binding votes to cut releases. We also have enough people for a
reasonable TLP even if we decided to go alone. The trouble is that, even
though there are quite a few people interested in continued development
of HttpComponents and HttpClient, there are only two persons (me and
Roland) doing some hands on development at the moment. 

We were hoping that a joint TLP with Slide would mend the situation by
increasing the number of active developers and potentially leading to a
cross-pollination in terms of ideas and code between two groups and
creating a more sustainable ecology around the larger community. So, the
idea seems to have failed to gain enough traction.

We can keep things are they are for some time but sooner or later
Jakarta will get shut down and some sort of decision will be forced upon
us. I _personally_ would definitely prefer to act before that happens,
but cannot do it just on my own.

Oleg



> Thoughts ?
> 
> Mvgr,
> Martin
> 
> Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> > Folks,
> > 
> > First off, we have to admit that our attempt at merging Jakarta
> > HttpComponents and Jakarta Slide communities to form one joint TLP
> > failed miserably. There was only one person from the Slide community
> > expressing interest in being on the new PMC. Moreover, the overall
> > reaction from Jakarta folks was, well, disappointing. Frankly I have an
> > impression no one cared. Let's face it: we are on our own.
> > 
> > So, I suggest the following course of actions
> > 
> > (1) Revert to our original proposal and plan
> > (2) State that Slide are welcome to join at any point they feel
> > interested and ready. 
> > (3) Send a message to WebService General list and invite those
> > interested in overseeing the project join the PMC
> > (4) Decide on who assumed the role of the Chair. This one is going to be
> > a tough one.
> > (5) Put the proposal on vote in October.
> > 
> > _Please_ do let me know what do you think.
> > 
> > Oleg
> > 
> > 
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