I think to get people working on it, it should be used by some main
projects, or used in first class projects, such as a connector for tomcat or
better for jetty. A browser could be a good candidate to project light on
the HttpComponente, but is a so big project.
These are only my thoughts, and could be trivial or not applycable.
 Andrea


On 9/17/07, Oleg Kalnichevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 15:20 +0200, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > Caught up on the thread, sorry for not listening.
> > This is a reply to the whole thread..
> >
> > To be honest, I think we need to solve this at a "higher" level. There
> are always going to be (sub)
> > projects that have less than 3 active people on it at any given time and
> when being on their own
> > this imposes a serious problem on making releases. So I think it is best
> to proceed with figuring
> > out (or getting opinions / resolutions from members/board) to see how
> they see this situation handled.
> >
>
> Hi Martin
>
> I suppose you can expect a simple answer that a project unable to muster
> 3 binding votes does not meet ASF standards and should go to the
> incubator or sourceforge.
>
> In case of HttpComponents we do not have a problem getting enough
> binding votes to cut releases. We also have enough people for a
> reasonable TLP even if we decided to go alone. The trouble is that, even
> though there are quite a few people interested in continued development
> of HttpComponents and HttpClient, there are only two persons (me and
> Roland) doing some hands on development at the moment.
>
> We were hoping that a joint TLP with Slide would mend the situation by
> increasing the number of active developers and potentially leading to a
> cross-pollination in terms of ideas and code between two groups and
> creating a more sustainable ecology around the larger community. So, the
> idea seems to have failed to gain enough traction.
>
> We can keep things are they are for some time but sooner or later
> Jakarta will get shut down and some sort of decision will be forced upon
> us. I _personally_ would definitely prefer to act before that happens,
> but cannot do it just on my own.
>
> Oleg
>
>
>
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > Mvgr,
> > Martin
> >
> > Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > First off, we have to admit that our attempt at merging Jakarta
> > > HttpComponents and Jakarta Slide communities to form one joint TLP
> > > failed miserably. There was only one person from the Slide community
> > > expressing interest in being on the new PMC. Moreover, the overall
> > > reaction from Jakarta folks was, well, disappointing. Frankly I have
> an
> > > impression no one cared. Let's face it: we are on our own.
> > >
> > > So, I suggest the following course of actions
> > >
> > > (1) Revert to our original proposal and plan
> > > (2) State that Slide are welcome to join at any point they feel
> > > interested and ready.
> > > (3) Send a message to WebService General list and invite those
> > > interested in overseeing the project join the PMC
> > > (4) Decide on who assumed the role of the Chair. This one is going to
> be
> > > a tough one.
> > > (5) Put the proposal on vote in October.
> > >
> > > _Please_ do let me know what do you think.
> > >
> > > Oleg
> > >
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