Hi Allard,

allard wrote:
> Who else except Henk have tried my builds and Ad's as well? I've had
> around 50 downloads from my site, and there's probable some more from
> panotools.org. Please respond, because IMHO we need to get this
> release out there. The lag between the release of the linux and
> windows versions has been long enough I think.

I see five issues and we're good to go:


1) TEXT

I've only tested the installer, yesterday, and my feedback [0] to the 
text and the URL called on install 
(http://hugin.sourceforge.net/installed/0.8.0.shtml) still stands.

The files license.txt and url.txt, which you can change just before 
running InnoSetup, in the INSTALL folder IIRC.

easy.


2) ENBLEND-ENFUSE

I'll try to run one of the large projects that would kill enblend / 
enfuse today and will get back to you here. I wish others who reported 
enblend-enfuse problems would do too.

This is one can be solved before running InnoSetup to compile the 
installer. And it should.

IMO there are three possible solutions:
1. replace the enblend and enfuse binaries with older ones known to work.
2. use the ones currently in the SDK.
3. get the build of the staging branch working and use that one.

On Ubuntu: the staging branch performs very well; the official v3.2 
fails repeatedly; the last known status from CVS fails repeatedly; the 
mercurial repo has at least two branches, and the status of the staging 
branch there is incomplete.

On Windows: the current staging branch does not build yet. I contributed 
one fix that improves (but does not solve) the problem. Christoph Spiel 
has no access to Windows and does not know MSVC. I need help from 
somebody who is more experienced with that compiler. I'll post about 
this later.


3) TIMING OF RELEASE

I understand the pressure to release for Windows, but you have to 
understand that it is not the same as releasing a tarball or even 
releasing a binary for Linux.

To be on par with the Linux release

a) remove from your installer:
* all the control point generators
* enblend-enfuse
* libpano

in Linux these comes as separate tools / installers. In Windows, we 
depend on cleaning those up too because shipping them separately would 
be a disservice to the users.

b) distribute the source code only - this is what the 0.8.0 tarball 
that's on Sourceforge. Common Ubuntu users are still served with 0.7.0. 
You can't expect binaries - whether for Linux, Windows, or OSX, to be 
released simultaneously as the tarballs. Not with our current 
organization (or lack thereof).

c) add the superior way of distributing binaries / packages in Linux 
distros (which BTW are also not yet at 0.8.0).

Because in Windows the installer is stand-alone. Once in the world, you 
can't take it back. In Linux, you just issue a tarball with a higher 
version number and the update trickles down the automatic channels for 
the majority of the users.

I prefer to release later and to have a clean release, than to release 
now and get the whiners going.


4) QUALITY OF RELEASE

There are serious issues introduced very recently: a recent change in 
libpano causes Hugin to switch locale. All of a sudden your Dutch texts 
become English. That's not release quality IMO. Has somebody tested 
this? I have English-only Windows and can't.

In Linux this does not seriously affect the release of Hugin-0.8.0 
because of the above described mechanism. In Windows this will flood us 
with complaints.

Hence: we need more testing. For OS X, Ippei and a few others have been 
doing this kind of testing and tweaking off-list. This is why there is 
an OS X installer up on SourceForge, and the OSX Hugin users community 
deserves applause for this. If Windows users want an installer up on 
SourceForge, they have to do a similar effort. There is only so much the 
developers can help.


5) ACCESS

Allard, can you please provide me with your SourceForge handle? I want 
to give you access to the repository so you can save your changes there 
/ save them for the future. And maybe even upload the installer, once 
it's ready?

Yuv


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