Hi Yuv,

thanks for the feedback. just a few things:

1 which version did you test? I changed the licence.txt from what it
was before, and I removed the URL (the page you refer to does not
exist and I don't plan on making it because I never like it if
installers start opening web pages, but if you want to make that page
I have no problems putting it in the installer).

2 I used the one currently in the SDK. Solving this is way out of my
current capabilities and I dont see myself making the time for
learning that in the near future. We'll need help here. I guess it's
quite common in the open source world that the majority of (potential)
users is on a different platform than most of the developments.

3&4 Point taken. But it doesn't have to be perfect. Whining is
feedback too. We can always release a 0.8.1 (or whatever you'd call
that). I think that even if I did use Dutch Windows I would prefer a
fast preview in English to a slow one in Dutch.

cheers, allard


On Aug 4, 8:20 am, Yuval Levy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Allard,
>
> allard wrote:
> > Who else except Henk have tried my builds and Ad's as well? I've had
> > around 50 downloads from my site, and there's probable some more from
> > panotools.org. Please respond, because IMHO we need to get this
> > release out there. The lag between the release of the linux and
> > windows versions has been long enough I think.
>
> I see five issues and we're good to go:
>
> 1) TEXT
>
> I've only tested the installer, yesterday, and my feedback [0] to the
> text and the URL called on install
> (http://hugin.sourceforge.net/installed/0.8.0.shtml) still stands.
>
> The files license.txt and url.txt, which you can change just before
> running InnoSetup, in the INSTALL folder IIRC.
>
> easy.
>
> 2) ENBLEND-ENFUSE
>
> I'll try to run one of the large projects that would kill enblend /
> enfuse today and will get back to you here. I wish others who reported
> enblend-enfuse problems would do too.
>
> This is one can be solved before running InnoSetup to compile the
> installer. And it should.
>
> IMO there are three possible solutions:
> 1. replace the enblend and enfuse binaries with older ones known to work.
> 2. use the ones currently in the SDK.
> 3. get the build of the staging branch working and use that one.
>
> On Ubuntu: the staging branch performs very well; the official v3.2
> fails repeatedly; the last known status from CVS fails repeatedly; the
> mercurial repo has at least two branches, and the status of the staging
> branch there is incomplete.
>
> On Windows: the current staging branch does not build yet. I contributed
> one fix that improves (but does not solve) the problem. Christoph Spiel
> has no access to Windows and does not know MSVC. I need help from
> somebody who is more experienced with that compiler. I'll post about
> this later.
>
> 3) TIMING OF RELEASE
>
> I understand the pressure to release for Windows, but you have to
> understand that it is not the same as releasing a tarball or even
> releasing a binary for Linux.
>
> To be on par with the Linux release
>
> a) remove from your installer:
> * all the control point generators
> * enblend-enfuse
> * libpano
>
> in Linux these comes as separate tools / installers. In Windows, we
> depend on cleaning those up too because shipping them separately would
> be a disservice to the users.
>
> b) distribute the source code only - this is what the 0.8.0 tarball
> that's on Sourceforge. Common Ubuntu users are still served with 0.7.0.
> You can't expect binaries - whether for Linux, Windows, or OSX, to be
> released simultaneously as the tarballs. Not with our current
> organization (or lack thereof).
>
> c) add the superior way of distributing binaries / packages in Linux
> distros (which BTW are also not yet at 0.8.0).
>
> Because in Windows the installer is stand-alone. Once in the world, you
> can't take it back. In Linux, you just issue a tarball with a higher
> version number and the update trickles down the automatic channels for
> the majority of the users.
>
> I prefer to release later and to have a clean release, than to release
> now and get the whiners going.
>
> 4) QUALITY OF RELEASE
>
> There are serious issues introduced very recently: a recent change in
> libpano causes Hugin to switch locale. All of a sudden your Dutch texts
> become English. That's not release quality IMO. Has somebody tested
> this? I have English-only Windows and can't.
>
> In Linux this does not seriously affect the release of Hugin-0.8.0
> because of the above described mechanism. In Windows this will flood us
> with complaints.
>
> Hence: we need more testing. For OS X, Ippei and a few others have been
> doing this kind of testing and tweaking off-list. This is why there is
> an OS X installer up on SourceForge, and the OSX Hugin users community
> deserves applause for this. If Windows users want an installer up on
> SourceForge, they have to do a similar effort. There is only so much the
> developers can help.
>
> 5) ACCESS
>
> Allard, can you please provide me with your SourceForge handle? I want
> to give you access to the repository so you can save your changes there
> / save them for the future. And maybe even upload the installer, once
> it's ready?
>
> Yuv
>
> [0] <http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/3297f6e345105d30>
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