Hi Yuv, Things going in wrong direction. We are not here for conflicts. This group has maintained a positive and friendly tone.
I agree with you and dont go into comparisons anymore. But I only highlight issues to improve our software Hugin. Last but not least, you claim it is Hugin. Recent threads on this list tells me that it is probably **your build** of Hugin and related tools; and that you had all sorts of problems following instructions that have been leading to successful builds thousands of (silent) times. This is what I am trying to convey to you about Builds for some time. How users like me will know this build is right or not? We users normally download builds made by someone. I know Bruno's build or Yuv's builds may be working excellently but how do I know that this build is Ok, made with latest files? for exampe since Zoran's latest hugin windows builds fast preview windows is not compatible with many Vga cards. There must be only one build for ubuntu, linux, fedora or windows. One build that You have, Burno has and remove all other "Your builds" its creating confusion. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Yuval Levy <[email protected]> wrote: > Dale, > > On September 27, 2010 01:32:48 am Dale Beams wrote: > > APPro beats Hugin in alignment hands down. > > IMHO it is more correct to state that "APPro operated by Dale Beams beats > Hugin operated by Dale Beams hands down". > > I bet that Hugin operated by Bruno Postle would beat APPro operated by Dale > Beams on quality of stitch based on exactly the same input images. > > > > In truth [...] > > Truth? your limited experience, maybe. If this is what works for you, buy > APPro. The experience of other users is completely different [0]. > > I don't think that the trial of APPro is meant for the use that you, Emad, > and > maybe others are doing. IMHO it is morally important to respect > proprietary > software as much as it is important to respect Open Source software. > > > > Hugin has a problem with feature creep. > > With funding from Google, Agnos, Nodal Ninja, and last but not least the > community we had a total of 20+ student projects in the past 4 years. Plus > many contributions from interesting smart people, too many to mention. For > you these contributions may be features creep. For me they, and the people > associated with them - mentors, students, other contributors - are what > make > Hugin interesting. > > Hugin's problem is that *consumers* like you project their *wishes* on it. > > > > In truth, Hugin met > > it's initial objective (0.7.x) but for whatever reason which users don't > > understand and don't have the programming experience to examine code, > > Hugin isn't currently accomplishing this goal. I've tested it and posted > > my results to the list. > > Stop it with your ludicrous "truth". Hugin does not have any objective. > People do. You have objectives. I have objectives. We team up when our > objectives are aligned. We negotiate and compromise on the inevitable > small > conflicts of interest. When the objectives are too different and it no > longer > make sense to compromise, we part ways. > > So Hugin is not accomplishing *your* goal? I feel sympathy for you, but I > don't think that this is a problem for Hugin. Why should your objective be > more important than contributors' objectives? > > > > btw, I use ubuntu, built my own LFS system in 2003, had some > introduction > > to C++ programing in college, wrote some interesting scripts, worked on > > OS400 CISC to RISC conversions, etc. and enjoye a good GUI. I sit > between > > worlds, user/tester/dev/ I'm an oldie who doesn't need to prove > anything, > > but would enjoy just using the software. > > Good for you, I don't question your computing skills. I do question the > integrity, completeness, methodology, and ultimately results and purpose of > your "test". > > You claim it is between Hugin and APPro. I claim it is first and foremost > between you and yourself. > > You don't provide input images nor PTO files, only screenshot. Frankly > speaking, both screenshots look like a crappy stitches to me, but I don't > have > enough information to judge what is the cause. > > You claim it is the control point detection. Are you aware that Hugin is > not > a CP detector (yet) [1]? Hugin only provides an interface to CP detectors > installed on your system. You don't even mention which one you are using. > > There are many reasons for a crappy stitch. Could be parallax problems in > the > input images. You don't provide them to verify. > > Could be indeed CP detection like you claim. Could also be bad > optimization. > The result of optimization depends also a lot on the operator. But without > providing a pto file and input images it is not possible to help you. > > Last but not least, you claim it is Hugin. Recent threads on this list > tells > me that it is probably *your build* of Hugin and related tools; and that > you > had all sorts of problems following instructions that have been leading to > successful builds thousands of (silent) times. Before claiming any > validity > for your "test results", you want to exclude bad build as a factor as well, > by > testing against other builds, possibly on different machines / from > different > users. > > No, you don't have to prove anything indeed. But don't call your personal > experience "truth", and don't claim your two snapshots to be a conclusive > test > of anything else but your ability to take snapshots and post them on the > web. > > The only claim you can make at this stage is that APPro works better for > you. > If you are happy with the result you obtained with APPro, buy a license and > happy stitching. > > Yuv > > [0] http://www.flickr.com/groups/hugin/ > [1] http://panospace.wordpress.com/2010/09/26/the-quest-is-over/ > -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
