On Sep 28, 6:59 am, kfj <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 28 Sep., 03:00, JPW <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Then I ran the 5 jpegs through enfuse with & without the options you
> > suggested,
> > which I discovered should be:
> > --saturation-weight=0 --exposure-mu=.5
>
> so you didn't run it with the parameters I suggested. I proposed you
> set exposure sigma to fifty and not exposure mu to .5. Try and do as I
> say. Exposure mu is .5 anyway by default, as you could have gleaned
> from the enfuse manual. It's the sigma you want to set to a (probably
> high) value, like 50. I tried it out for you, posted you the data and
> what do you do? Know better.
>
> Kay

Easy, Kay.
Please assume the best of me, as I do of you. And remember, as I have
told you, I am a totally naive user of any but the most basic feature
of Hugin, PanoTools and command line programs in general.

This is what you said:
"I have a hunch that for your particular purpose you may fare better
if
you increase enfuse's exposure sigma, since your not aiming at well-
exposedness but simply want to average the shots to remove noise. The
default value is .25 (I think), so if you enter --exposure-sigma=X
with X (probably much) higher than .25, you may get the results you
want. And set saturation-weight to zero. Really, enfuse is a tool to
pick the 'best' bits from several images, but with noisy images, how
would it know what is best?
Actually this makes me think that it might be a nice option to add to
enfuse: something like --fuse-all, which would give equal weight to
pixels from all images and just use the fusing mechanism. But a large
value for exposure-sigma should do the trick as well. so for your
enfuse options, try something like
--saturation-weight=0 --exposure-mu=50"

These were my actions:
I was confused.
I could find no reference to "--exposure-sigma" in the enfuse manual
file in my Hugin help.
I was not sure how to do what you said.
So I asked you what you meant:

"So this is a whole other area I have not yet waded into because I
really don't know how to use the flags/switches (whatever they call
them.)
To do what you recommend (this BTW is an example of how esoteric
knowledge is assumed in the documentation—although you gave me a
complete command line instead of assuming I would know how to compose
it. Thanks!) would I then enter  '--saturation-weight=0 --exposure-
mu=50' into the 'enfuse' Options box on the Stitcher page?"

Bruno kindly answered back to me—"Yes"

I let drop the "exposure-sigma vs exposure-mu" conflict and copied
your command:
--saturation-weight=0 --exposure-mu=50
and pasted it into the enfuse options box.
When I ran it I saw zero difference in the output from the default
output.
I ran it several times and noticed that in the program console (or
whatever you call it) that there was a warning that flashed by.
The warning said something like
"--exposure-mu too high cannot exceed 1. Hugin set exposure-mu at 1
instead"
(is this what it said? I don't know. It flashed by to quick for me to
be sure.)
This stimulated me to dig further into the manual where I saw
something indicating something like:
"--exposure-mu=x where x must be between 0 and 1"
I assumed you made a typo and meant to say .50 rather than 50.

I then ran the altered command and it ran without a warning. Anyway
this is why I posted to you,

"which I discovered should be:
--saturation-weight=0 --exposure-mu=.5
 but only by chance (where do the logs go where I can read them?) "

(BTW, I still want to know how I can see the feedback from the program
so I can see what is happening during a run.)

It's not that I "know better," it's that I "know hardly anything."
So, if you give me explicit instructions that I can act upon, and tell
me exactly what command line to enter where, I will be glad to try
your suggestion, whatever it is ;-)

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