On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 08:35 +1100, Terry Duell wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 02:33:43 +1100, T. Modes <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On 22 Nov., 06:40, Tduell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >> I guess I am getting used to it, and perhaps my projects are relatively
> >> simple, but I haven't run into difficulties that haven't been able to be
> >> overcome by a bit of 'education'.
> >
> > ;-) If you have proposals to make it easier/simpler/more intuitive,
> > I'm open for it.
> 
> There aren't any changes I could suggest at this stage. My difficulties  
> really all revolved around unfamiliarity. I'll try to spend a bit of time  
> now looking at it from the point of view of 'how could this be simpler'.
> 
> 
> >> The question is, are we close to finalising the new gui?
> 
> > I have no further "big" plans for changing the gui further. So for me
> > we are close to finalising the new gui.
> 
> OK. As Bruno said, we really now need a lot more people to try it, that  
> should really help to find any 'rough edges', so to speak.

I tested the new GUI a while ago but stopped testing when the developer
became unresponsive to criticism about of some of the changes of that I
found confusing, unintuitive, or caused a loss of functionality.

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> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul
> Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 09:10:26 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> > > The optimizer tab is much harder to use now since there is no way to
> > > activate an entire column with one click, same for the exposure tab.
> > > The user must click the box for every image in a column they want to
> > > activate or deactivate, there was a button to do this before.
> >
> > This can be done now with the context menu.
> >
> 
> Where?
> I could not find a way to toggle a whole column on or off in the right
> click menu.
> 
> > > You moved to optimizer master switches to the images tab but they are
> > > nearly unusable there since the user can not see what effect the
> > > different settings have without changing to the optimizer tab.
> > > You moved to exposure master switches to the images tab but they are
> > > nearly unusable there since the user can not see what effect the
> > > different settings have without changing to the exposure tab.
> > > If you want to put the the master switches on the images tab please
> > > leave them on the other tabs, your layout is much more compact than
> > > the old one, they do not take up much room, and you only want advanced
> > > users to see these tabs anyway.
> >
> > The master switch say what will be optimized. So I don't need the long
> > lists to see it again. Also the lists are read only and will confuse a
> > new user.
> > If the master switch is doubled on the optimizer tab, we can't hide
> > the optimizer tabs any more.
> >
> 
> But then a new user will be unable to see what selections each of the
> optimizer settings makes to compare them, they are not self
> explanatory.
> Why can you not hide the optimizer tab if it also has the switch on
> it?
> 
> > > When you removed the lenses tab you did not move all of its
> > > functionality to the images tab as you said.
> >
> > >     Also the lens tab was removed. The functions moved to the images
> > > tab.
> >
> > > There is no way there to set the lens parameters that were previously
> > > found on the lens tab on the images tab.
> >
> > Again, use the context menu.
> >
> > Thomas
> 
> Hiding everything under the Edit right click entry is not user
> friendly.
> This is because you have Position, Lens, Photometrics, and Camera
> Response all under the edit entry but nowhere do you tell the user
> what "Edit" allows you to edit.
> If an experienced user could not find these settings how confusing do
> you think this will be for a new user who needs to change these
> settings?
> You have a Lens entry in the right click menu I would expect to find a
> "edit lens parameters" entry there even if it just opens your edit
> window to the Lens tab.
> 

Since the "GUI overhaul" thread died a few weeks after that I did not
feel that there was much desire for user input on the new GUI beyond
reporting crash level bugs.

I have not tested anything recent so I can't say if anything has changed
since then with regard to the problems I had.

If I recall correctly Hugin must be installed or it refuses to run and
that complicated testing things quite a bit since I had to juggle
multiple versions manually since automatic package building was broken
(at least for me) the last time I built Hugin.

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